on second thought, I’m a little late to the party.
What vehicles are these?
Because 1 or 2 or even 3 such vehicles scattered throughout the tree do not prove the entire line
I’ve never had the side of an Abrams stop or bounce anything. Never.
doesn’t matter
And ?
but what do you want to prove?
You completely misunderstood my point. I deliberately didn’t list the vehicles, because the problem with the Soviets is completely different. The problem is the game mechanics that promote the things added to the Soviets; not the vehicles themselves. The problem is that in every era, in every line, the Soviets have vehicles that aren’t “OP” but are among the best in all tech tree branches. Moreover, they usually have them close together, and in great numbers. The problem is that the added composite armor, for example, often works incorrectly—usually “accidentally” on the Soviets.
who says so? you? Nah I don’t know about your country, but where i live we have free speech…
P51H5NA, F-15A, F-18A, M1A1 HC & friends [3 vehicles], M1A2, M1A1 & Leclerc being 1.0 apart despite being around or over 95% similar in combat effectiveness, 120S, Corsair being 0.3 BR below identical Corsairs in its own tech tree and other tech trees, F-80 still having infinite water injection bug, F3H and F-100D participating in 9.3’s compression, M10 Booker being given special treatment compared to VT-5… just off the top of my head.
There are as many posts complaining about F-5C’s flares as there are about 2S38, if not more.
An excellent quote disproving the idea of Russian bias.
Also what mechanics?
Soviets have good vehicles, sometimes they get an OP vehicle, sometimes they get shafted; this is not unique to Soviets. “Among the best” across all BRs is going to be wrong though.
I’ve never seen composite armor work incorrectly in a positive direction on any tank.
I’ve seen armor get modeled twice, on IS-6 and Merkava Mk4 LIC, but I’ve never seen the composite armor work incorrectly in a positive direction.
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not related but sure, talking about how person should live is no one business and here you are acting like you know better then everything.
but no worry, my country will never be under you worhtless law so called free speech when my medical bill comes to 120k.
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Ones that are convinced Russian bias exist or have an underlying russophobic mentality. They use these forums as a way to attack people…
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There are people that think Shermans and T-72s instantly blow up when shot.
And in the opposite direction, there are people that think T-90M and Abrams are invincible.
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Sorry bro, i stop reading after M1A1 HC xD
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I need to stop reading this forum because people are right. This is complete bs xD
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Bruh, i can’t stop laughing. What you done to me
What about the others? I’d like to see you make the argument that the P-51H, F-15A, F/A-18A, or F8F aren’t OP.
And what makes the HC and other abrams so much worse than other top tiers, like the T-72B3A, Leclerc, Ariete or Challengers?
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People don’t seem to want to accept that more expensive doesn’t = ‘better’
They also don’t want to accept that everything can be easily destroyed.
I won’t comment on planes because I don’t fly in WT.
Who say worse ? But someone say “OP” :))))))
You mean irl ? Hmmm … :)
Something being 0.3/0.7 lower than equivelant vehicles would make it OP.
So - every nation is OP. And Russian Bias still exist. Simple.
Yet no examples of Russian bias.
The closest we’ve come to is Mig-23MLD being added without direct equivalents at the time, but that situation was fixed in future updates.
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No, no, following the logic that if something is similarly effective and has lower BR - there are many more such machines in the Soviet tree. Almost all T-72s, T-80s, and light tanks. All face equally strong enemies with higher BR.
And that means, Russian Bias exist :)))
Ok, so give some examples of T-series that you think are undertiered?
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undertiered - these are your words.
But following that logic, it’s all in the 11.0+ range
This implies that you think that either these T-series are undertiered, or the enemies in your example are overtiered.
So I’m asking you for examples, of either.
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Yes, irl.
I love it when someone selects only elements of a statement, ignoring the entire context, and then asks questions like this.
Read it again and you will understand what I am talking about.
It’s not that simple. Cost usually get from something. Western vehicles are generally more expensive, but they have a higher survivability, can operate longer, operate more efficiently. But the machine itself is one thing; important, and perhaps most importantly, are all the components of the system in which it operates.