bugthunder… this f boring because there moment u die…
That’s the one man, thing stopped me playing naval lol, like completely
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Oh yeah? so how come over a certain middle eat conflic that is oging right now stealth fighters can fly around modern SPAA’s? the same russia is using? where are the videos of f-35’s or f-22’s going down?
Guess what… you can detect from some distance but not get a launch solution from far away…
Old tech f-22 has still much better stealth then supposed su-57 xd which is proven by multiple conflicts and how much you can see that in a war in europe :)
but guess what when the 5th gen come here gajin will buf the su-57 as much as possible just like bmpt… it will be so much propaganda that the eu council will intervene xD
Fat guess: because those SPAA are actually not that modern at least not compared to the modern AESA radars cofcof had in mind
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One has to ask also - if Stealth is as useless as ColCof says it sure is - I think he needs to get Lockheed Martin, Northrop, Sukhoi, Chengdu, BAE, Leonardo, on the phone ASAP.
They’re all wasting their time trying to make their aircraft stealthy - because someone on the WT forums said so.
-Spoiler Alert-
Stealth is far from useless.
AESA is not the all-seeing Eye of Sauron that some people think it is.
Anyone who proclaims that X or Y system negates Stealth is probably trying to sell it you.
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I dont think he actually said that stealth in general is useless just that with the current map sizes and equipment that stealth fighters would be facing its not the all dominating superpower some people make it out to be.
Stealth is not that useless.
Currently with how the F-117 is modelled it is capable avoiding Fox-3’s by dropping bombs at ≈5km
Im not saying it is, im just saying that i cant really see Gaijin making stealth fighters the superweapons some make them out to be.
True that
I dont think we quite appreciate just how insane lmur being top attack is, has gaijin ever gave excuses for that nonsense?
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Detection ranges for modern aircraft are extremely classified. Anyone giving out numbers and making statements on effectiveness is to be disregarded.
Iranian had some decently competent sam systems. Not new, not that old.
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I know, im just saying that maybe the Iran kerfuffle might not be the best to accurately judge the interaction between the most modern radars we have in the game and stealth aircraft.
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main issue is LDIRCM, the LMUR is secondary
Yes and no.
Iran did not have the latest and best systems available - however they had the best part of 30-40 years to get their air defence net planned and ordered (including learning lessons from when Iraq’s was malleted in GW1 and GW2). They have also had significant tech exchanges with Russia in updating their S-300 and local variants; including investing in IR/EO systems. They are many things, but they are not stupid. See also what happens when they get to employ 30-40 years of prep in closing a certain waterway…
With all of that said - it didn’t take long for a fairly small force of F-35s (relative to the non-stealth stuff) to plot, map and blind most of the air defences across large swathes of the country. Losing a single F-15E and A-10 out of a total of 1000s of sorties is quite telling.
However you are correct - whatever circus we end up with War Thunder (for a circus it will be) will bear about as much similarity to real life as an episode of Whacky Races has to Formula 1…
I dunno - give them Spikes (or air-launched equivalents) and you’d drastically reduce their ability to decimate the opposing team…
they’re still incredibly hard to get rid of, and annoying to deal with.
Depends on the amount. AH-64E and Z-10ME are still doing very well statistically with 16x JAGM-MR and 8x Blue arrow respectively.
For Naval, three words - Soyez, SKR-7, Pr 206
Most ridiculously broken OP trash.
yeah sure
hard to say how much of that is due to LMUR being a better missile and russia having absurd AA though
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Not gonna lie mate, I’m getting extremely bored of losing most top tier games to BMPT spammers who then bounce into a damn MI28NM and just nukehalf the team, then most the time actually get a nuke lol.
Also dude shot my MG with heat and it completely overpressured my tank? makes no sense, at all.
Reckon the absurd SPAA is making it more profound, though the lmurs still gto the advantage.
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