Small maps for one. Game is basically dead when 5th gen comes out, because what else is there to add? Nobody cares about mid tier, most of us joined for modern combat. A few of us enjoy the Cold War stuff, sure, but I highly doubt majority of the community saw the ads for War Thunder and we’re like, “you know what, I really want to play this game so I can play in the T-62 and MiG 17!”
1 Like
- map sizes are a huge issue.
- team sizes another huge issue especially if it’s the likes of F22s and such.
- Missiles are already borked enough and do not work at all like they should.
- Stealth technology in game is nowhere near what it should be.
- if stealth technology is implemented most planes which aren’t stealth would be butchered.
so tell me, how is the game ready for these?
Not if you cannot lock onto the plane lol.
T62 VS Chieftain is goated mate don’t slander it!
Pretty sure Chieftain vs T-62 was the last thing on anyone’s mind when they played this game, unless they were really adamant on roleplaying the Yom Kippur War.
Edit: sorry, it was the Centurion used in Yom Kippur, not Chieftain. The proper war for the Chieftain versus T-62 would be Iran-Iraq War or even the Persian Gulf War.
1 Like
It’s less the stealth planes (I think they won’t be super powerful unless given ECM/LDIRCM/very powerful stealth), and more the next gen IIR missiles that are the biggest balance issue. This also isn’t mentioning the current issues air RB has.
This is also true. I think this is also why Gaijin has barely added any new MBTs in the last few years (2A6 was added in 2022).
I really dont think thats true. I got a bit bored and calculated the spawn/game ratio for all 12.0+ vehicles and neither russian vehicles nor other ones are really different in that regard.
T80BVM 1.13
T90M 1.10
T-80U-E1 1.24
M1A2 SEP V2 1.14
M1A2 SEP 1.096
M1A1 Click-Bait 1.26
Leopard 2A7V 1.18
Leeopard 2 PSO 1.094
Leopard 2A6 1.098
Leopard 2A4M 1.26
So russian players are not more likely to respawn than any other nation and even have smaller MBT lineups compared to some. Thats why i really dont think that one sided one death leaving is the main issue atm. And i genuinely did all so feel free to ask for any other vehicles that might interest you
If they can give mi-28 more LMURS that it ever carried - they could certainly give Typhoon less Brimstones for balance’s sake. We already have seeker separation for some heli missiles, so it’s literally a minute work. Besides IIRC some F-15 can carry like 22xAtG munitions. 19 of which are SPICE 250 bombs. Or was it 18? Doesn’t seem to affect balance in any measurable way so far.
You left off the T80U, the BMPT, the helis as well as the planes and SPAAs.
Also you can see it every game, large portions of US / blue teams leave without having done much meanwhile the opposing team will keep spawning, that’s not to say they don’t have one death leavers etc, but their lineups are arguably larger / more diverse.
I won VS russia last match, why ? cause they ODLd, even the amount of BMPTs they spawned couldn’t help them.
It playes massively into it.
Guilty
1 Like
I almost never second spawn MBTs against rusia. It’s useless. You get 1 MBT run and if you’re lucky enough you’ll live longer than 3 minutes and then get slammed by mi-28 or whatever. It’s like a situation with full uptiers at mid BRs. You’re food. Do you want to be food? In my case I either enter CAS, SPAA or IFV, basically move into a support role. But there are people that don’t have such a choice. And yea, I would much rather them leave the game instead of spawning a roland and feeding CAS/letting them know that they’re being watched.
You can now lock the missile’s fairing coming at you at 0 degrees, where the cross-sectional density is several times smaller than that of any 5th-generation aircraft. Don’t talk nonsense
In case you didn’t know, the Fakour is on par with missiles like the Meteor/Aim260/R37 in terms of speed. Is the map size too much of a hindrance for you with Fakours? I don’t see any threads on the forum.
It’s so interesting to hear an opinion about the top aircraft in the game from someone who hasn’t had a single battle in this rating, and who has a total of 50 battles on his account. A fairy tale.
T80U is at 1.15 (tho im not really sure why that one would matter?) and BMPT is at 1.21 and BMPT 72 at 1.3.
Well helis and planes dont really have a spawn/game ratio since the stats are diluted and they dont really respawn usually (the MI28NM is at 1.02 for example)
And i actually did all SPAA as well.
Thats my point, theres actually no proof for that except for people attesting to it
You might not but evidently people do
I knew you were into playing Israel, I just didn’t realise you were doing it because of random Middle Eastern conflicts. Eh, I’ll play Israel again one day.
If they implement it properly, which it should be then no it’s not nonsense lol.
F117 is quite difficult to lock up as is.
speed and Speed alone, Meteor and such far far out perform it in pretty much all aspects bar extreme long ranges of slow targets, aka it was designed for interception that is it.
A lot more than you’d think though which is my point, soo many people ODL in these games, or leave with 2 or 3 deaths with nothing done.
Cause folks uptier it, especially now it’s got a (rather out of place) 6 second reload.
Oh can I see it?
I like the isreali tanks gameplay, I like the chieftain as it’s my favourite tank and it’s not been in too many conflicts so I am limited for what I can compare it to IRL xd
This isn’t nonsense, it’s physics. You’ve watched too many cartoons; stealth is nothing against the latest generation of phased-array radar
The G-forces are still there, though, or do you really think they have as many fins as the Mica/r77? All these long-range missiles will be easily dodged, just like any other.
But its apparently not as one sided as one might think.
Sure but thats a whole other topic since that would beg the question why these players achieve nothing.
Wouldnt they rather uptier the 12.0 one then?
Spoiler
1 Like
I was tempted to buy the BMPT-72 just to play it so terribly that Gaijin sends it straight to 10.7 again, however I might play Israel. Can’t decide. Doesn’t help the missus is just saying she doesn’t care what nation to play, she will play whatever.
1 Like
other nations when get interesting prorotypes? with “140 mm” gun?
okay mate. so there’s a whopping 9 vehicles in game which could currently go up against them.
Also no, I’ve spent long enough reading about stealth planes and how they function lol, we’re also not talking about IRL we’re talking about in game u clod.
You claim it’s nonsense but it’s also true it’s extremely hard , hell near impossible for a phoon to maintain a radar lock on an F22.
You also seem to forget IRl the F22 and we’re using this as an example, has far supperior technologies aka sensors in it to know what is being fired at them.
I’m not one to give much credence to Stealth planes, but that doesn’t mean i’m that obtuse to ignore the distinct advantages that they have.
And of course when implemented in game, they will be almost impossible to beat.
I’m well aware G forces are still there, but the Meteor for example features ramjets for example which gives it more manueverability over longer ranges, fakours as you used as an example are rocket propelled and burn out then glide into their target.
Hence again why they’re so easy to dodge.
True that man true that.
you and i both know it’s a combination of morons and being gaijined
I’ve had games where I get 3 deaths and 2 assists.
They take both, the T80UE1 is premium remember, a lot of folks aren’t willing to fork out, while they weren’t now there seems to be a plethora of all of the premium anime tanks.
That’s absolutely wicked man, how long did all that take u to do? :o
Also anything you’d like to add about the 5th gens coming to the game in response to Cobra?
Get a raam sagol
do it.
Any modern AESA radar can detect an F-22 at 100 km, besides, IRST sensors are installed on those same aircrafts. Don’t talk about things you don’t know.
In the current version of Warthunder, fifth-generation aircraft will be completely useless.
1 Like