Russian Bias in 2026?

[SFmerc]

@WestDeservedBMPT

You look at one heli outperforming against 90% having the same kill/spawn ratio as tank but costing twice higher

Yeah imagine that.
Helo what is barely more expensive vs 2 mbt’s after 1st spawned tank.
But please tell me what MBT can supress enemy team by shooting 8-16 times on target / Targets within seconds after spawning?

It is a bit different comparing KA50 to a AH64E /MI28 etc 13.0 BR helo.
I really suggest that you grind one of those top helos, unlock those F&F weaponry and then start this talking again how it is waste of sp compared to 2 MBT’s.

Just a tip, sooner you get that helo in air, more damage you will make to enemy team. Happy grinding.

Ps, by this your logic CAS planes are also waste of sp on top tier, since they cost nearly 3x MBT, newsflash , they can also demolish teams on hangar faster than 1 guy spawning 3 mbt’s in a game.

[oKay_Erika]

@H_ngma

The other 10% you conveniently ignored?

So count 90% badly performing on 10% performing? What’s average conclusion will be?

[H_ngma]

@WestDeservedBMPT

So count 90% badly performing on 10% performing? What’s average conclusion will be?

That Helis are not great until they are at top tier which is precisely what everyone here tried to tell you the entire time but you didnt get that?

[oKay_Erika]

@H_ngma

That Helis are not great until they are at top tier which is precisely what everyone here tried to tell you the entire time but you didnt get that?

Mmm? One? One you consider overperforming?

[SFmerc]

@WestDeservedBMPT

Grind what

@SFmerc

I really suggest that you grind one of those top helos, unlock those F&F weaponry and then start this talking again how it is waste of sp compared to 2 MBT’s.

Hmmmm, I’m not sure what I suggested to grind. Maybe read it again.
But if you cant read, or are just simple , top tier is not 11.0-12.7

[H_ngma]

@WestDeservedBMPT

Mmm? One? One you consider overperforming?

No, more than one are overperforming?
The one performing best is not because of the heli but being paired with the only dangerous SPAA, because if you bothered to actually look then youd see that a lot of helis had much better stats pre Pantsir SM SV addition

[J_ackal]

If theres not enough leopards nato loses in top tier, thats my recent experience

[Das_Jukes]

German mains get alot of stick (rightly or wrongly)…

But yeah - the one thing I fear the most is a Russia/German team with a couple of competant 2A7 players

*Insert ‘I’m in danger’ meme

[oKay_Erika]

@SFmerc

Hmmmm, I’m not sure what I suggested to grind. Maybe read it again.
But if you cant read, or are just simple , top tier is not 11.0-12.7

Maybe reread then whole thread to follow discussion

@WestDeservedBMPT

In cas and helis

Not one particular overperforming heli with particular rocket.
I clearly said that, and it appears heli needs op rockets to actually perform one same level or even higher than tanks.

[P51ACE1943]

Plus there’s no way to filter stats by what weaponry was used. A lot of poor helicopter stats come from non-spaded helicopters doing rocket runs.

[H_ngma]

I mean, yeah Leopard 2s and maybe Abramses are pretty much the only things NATO has over russia atm so if theyre lacking in that field things get ugly.

[P51ACE1943]

Plus on average I’d say the typical US main is going to be worse in ground than the average Russian main. When a large % of the team is premium only the NATO side usually does worse.

Even then the US will match against Russia and Germany a good amount of the time.

[oKay_Erika]

@P51ACE1943

Plus there’s no way to filter stats by what weaponry was used. A lot of poor helicopter stats come from non-spaded helicopters doing rocket runs.

I think this easily settles itself for both downs with most of tanks playing heats in stock and dying with no parts

[P51ACE1943]

So it’s not ideal to compare their similar KPS and KPD if their stats are dragged down by those players.

[J_ackal]

You kill ru MBT —> they have no sp to spawn cas —> braindamage forces them to spawn 100 pansirs → you steamroll their spawn and win

[SFmerc]

@WestDeservedBMPT

Maybe reread then whole thread to follow discussion

The point that people had told you numerous times about top tier helos (13.0)
And apparentally your biggest helo is KA50, and you have made your mind according to that helo that helos dont effect gameplay so much that they are waste of SP of 2 mbts.

What I’ve missed about this helo conversation? Or are you missing the point, that top tier helos with LDIRCM and F&F weaponry actually makes a difference on winning games. (yes only 13.0 helos got both)

@WestDeservedBMPT

I think this easily settles itself for both downs with most of tanks playing heats in stock and dying with no parts

you know that nowdays top tanks got dart as stock so no need for heat shit anymore. (thank god)

[oKay_Erika]

Stats state otherwise. Germans are worst

[oKay_Erika]

@WestDeservedBMPT

MOST of tanks playing heats

@SFmerc

The point that people had told you numerous times about top tier helos (13.0)

The point is I was told I haven’t played helis(KA-50), and then I described why I stopped playing THEM. Then arguing again based on ONE HELI when I told I don’t play them as the whole

[_Renzo]

@H_ngma

Its because the amount of players being able to easily change top tier trees let alone lineups is not an insanely big one. I mean look at yourself, youve got a good amount of hours and you dont even have a single top tier lineup.

The effect exists though. Top tier US and German winrates saw an increase when the SEPv1 and Leo 2 PSO respectfully, while neither of these tanks were that much of an upgrade at the time.

[БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С]

@P51ACE1943

A lot of poor helicopter stats come from non-spaded helicopters doing rocket runs

They don’t need to do rocket runs. Every 10.7+ heli has 2-4 guided misslies as stock and most people grind upgrades in PvE because it is much more profitable for most players than doing rocket runs.