Russian Bias in 2026?

Do you have a better word for when some vehicles get missiles they cant carry, missiles that dont exist or LDIRCM that can bend through space and time while others need hard sources for everything?

Yeah its almost like all of the others give a damn about crew survivability and therefore hard separate crew and ammo even if that means smaller magazine size. There are vehicles in the game with pass through and they all blow up when the external ammo is hit except the BMPT.

They havent which is why there is a wall of silence regarding the topic by the devs and mods.

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There’s no such thing as “selective realism”

I think this is disingenuous to say when we’ve got

  1. Certain weapons not achieving IRL performance because they’re “close enough” in Gaijins eyes
  2. Others that don’t perform to IRL levels because there’s not a fist full of 1st party sources explicitly stating values that are implied multiple times
  3. Some that exist with a couple of mock-up pictures.
  4. Factual fixes for systems that have been ignored for years
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@CamVPro
1- Yeah, the fact R-27ER doesn’t reach its IRL performance has upset some of its fans.
2- Yeah, the fact Mig-29’s RD-33 engines have incorrect fuel flow on dry thrust but can’t be fully proven because the first party sources don’t specify enough.
3- Yeah, Germany’s mock-up SPAA was delisted tho.
4- Yeah, the fact it’s been years without a fix to RD-33’s thrust curves is an issue.

Every example you gave there are many vehicles that fit.

Exactly so there are in fact many examples of Selective Realism in game

It’s not selective if it happens to everyone.

Telling that you only answered to him considering that the stuff i mentioned very much does not happen to everyone.

Did you want me to say the obvious?
If there was evidence of vehicles carrying missiles [weapons] they couldn’t carry [use] then unclassified manuals would prove that, which would be an actionable bug report. Without documentation, it’s purely conjecture; and said conjecture has occurred for every tech tree in the game.

LDIRCM is over-performing in all helicopters that feature it, and Gaijin stated they are working on fixing LDIRCM.

And as for silence on source material; no one is obligated to share the names of source material they have, and depending on how contract are written, there could be disclosure restrictions with the copyright holder[s].
No, that does not mean there are “highly restricted” documents being used… as someone else last year incorrectly thought.

why on gods green earth would there be reports about what weapons a vehicle couldnt carry? That doesnt make a lick of sense which is precisely why Gaijin usually correctly wants specific proof that a weapon was relevant on a specific type of plane. Thats why its a blatant double standard when the MI28NM and SU30SM get missile quantities that have no proof whatsoever.

LDIRCM is probably overperforming regarding what types of IR missiles it can affect however only one of the LDIRCM helis has an LDIRCM emitter affecting missiles in areas that are completely physically impossible.

They dont need to share a source but this is the same situation as the KH38MT where they are not giving any statement whatsoever and instead just block every inquiry and cast a wall of silence even towards the tech mods.
We wouldnt need the 3rd BR move for the BMPT if Gaijin just let a weakness of vehicle be a weakness instead of turning it into a pure advantage.

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Probably?

Hmmm, what makes you say that I wonder

Surely not the helis currently capable of evading 20 missiles at once by just sitting there

Agreed here, the BMPT’s ammo rack does absolutely need a change.

Either make it internal or nuke turret mechanisms and electronics like on the PUMA

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So you’re going down the route of claiming MRMLs and R-77 dual pylons are fake. Sad.
Despite proof that shows otherwise.
That or you have double standards.

As for Mi-28NM, there are dozens of photos out there of all 4 pylons having AGMs equipped.
And without proof that the pylons aren’t wired for a type of universal serial data transfer, there’s nothing to say on the matter that isn’t conjecture.

It’s this same exact argument you’re using that someone else tried using to dismiss 4 pylons of JAGMs.

MiG-29 and R-73 vs R-27ER

Some player has common sense bro and they obtain those numbers easily by playing casually. If you are a busta then no matter how hard you sweat you would still remains a busta.

Like all those incompetent players who also lack of common sense typically find someone or something else to blame rather than themselves.

I meant more probably regarding the part where they can affect modern iir missiles like Iris t but yeah the part where one laser affects multiple missiles is for sure overperforming.

That’s the point. There’s no proof that the SU30SM can carry those extra missiles.

Again you can’t proof a negative. If anything then people would have to proof that it is indeed wired for a universal data transfer which there is none for.

No since there are first hand sources stating that the JAGM pylons are compatible with all pylons that work for hellfires, the LMUR doesn’t have that proof.

Not really sure what you’re trying to say?

iirc the only reason Gaijin sees the 27SM/30SM/30SM2 as able to use the dual pylons is “Technical Feasibility”, since there’s the same space between the engines on all the Flankers.

But yeah, It’s completely incorrect, since Dual Pylons have only ever been seen on Su-35S.

MiG-29 is an example of the double-sidedness of gaijin’s selective realism.

Gets R-27ERs which it never got and most likely couldn’t fire but no R-73s which is what the plane was known for

Oh that too absolutely.
LDIRCM is so disgusting rn

I’m all for technical feasibility as long as it’s done reasonably.

I’ve heard rumours that the F-15C GE’s racks weren’t wired for firing missiles but I lack the knowledge and sources to prove that.

Either way, war thunder is a game, not a simulator.
I believe some aspects of realism can be ignored as long as it’s done in a reasonable manner and still make x thing fun to play or counter able enough.

Su-27SM racks as well as F-15 racks are reasonable to me.

LDIRCM though absolutely isn’t

F-5C flares too as another example.

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It could theoretically since they have the same seeker as the R-27R, but I don’t think the 27E series was integrated onto the 9.12s.

afaik the first Fulcrums to get 27E’s were the MiG-29S’s. (like the MiG-29N we have in game)

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1) - Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

Ah I see, I didn’t know that the MiG 29 was not capable of firing R27 ERs

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