i have to differ, the BMPT, SM-SV, and CAS are clear examples of Russian Bias
Every nation gets there bias from time to time. When Germany got the IRIS-T and CAS mains across all platforms cried their eyes out and we would tease them “Just spawn a tank” because it used to be CAS being extremely OP and these players would say “Just spawn a plane.” Overtime, people learned they couldn’t just fly high anymore 24/7 and adapted to flying low, myself included. The problem with SM-SV, it’s 100% no fly zone being the most broken spaa in game right now wiping all anything thrown at it along with taking you out in its insane mach missiles.
As far as BMPT and SM-SV go I can say yes, Russian Bias. The only way I can kill an SM-SV is getting the drop on it with either guns or dumb bombs. Anything else is useless. The CAS such as planes and Helicopters are not a huge problem if you bring the right lineup for the jobs. Hint: ADATS and ItO for Helicopters only
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No other trees top tier competetiveness is entirely reliant on selective realism besides russia tho
I agree, but Gajin tries to balance those trash cans one way or another. Would I prefer Gajin stop giving every nation 12.7 when they really don’t have it? Yes! But even with the selective handholding given to Russian MBTs they still suck (minus BMPT and SM-SV). Using the T90 after playing USA and realizing it can’t fking reverse when I just peaked to shot with a 7 sec reload time is brutal. And when Abrams and Leos play with braincells, I cry in any Russian trashcan. The main problem at top tier is people not having a proper lineup. Too many new people flock to USA and Germany but there’s nothing Gajin can do about it.
You can tell if you’re going to win by seeing what tanks you teammates have. Sometimes they only have 1 so RIP.
I honestly think what makes Russia so dominant at Top Tier is mainly the CAS and the SPAA that back it up (The BMPT is also a big issue but Im not talking about it)
The MI-28NM is not hugely dominant because of the sheer amount of people that have it (It does play a role in it tho) but rather because NATO SPAA aren’t as good as what Russia has and don’t have anything close to what Russia use. For example the Pantsir SM-SV is really good at killing the FnF helis even good at killing the MI-28NM but its Russia so they have the Pantsir on its team by default (unless its a mixed battle ofc)
I suppose the problem arises when with that method of balancing, it would force modern Russian MBTs to face much older western MBT designs. Say for example if you based on what you’re referencing, the IPM1 would be more comparable to the T-90M. I fully get your point and where it comes from but it’ll have a lot of consequences.
The Multi vehicle SPAA are good but they struggle at killing the MI-28NM due to its LDIRCM and they typically fly either close to cover or low enough where multipathing protects them
USA/ NATO dynamic of spawning CAS every game is threatened by the SM-SV. Russia having it gives them a clear advantage since it can wipe out the skies in minutes and allows for the team to push while SP has been wasted on bombs or GBUs. Would be nice if SPAA has higher SP instead of a static 90? 70?
Now, if all CAS is wiped you can spawn your CAS and after that it’s GGs since people are then switching over to SPAA. From my top tier gameplay on both I can understand why Russia got the SM-SV. When it’s not in the air there is some much CAS you genuinely can’t do much about it against NATO. When playing US, now all the CAS is dead and enemy is pushing their CAS
Moral of the story, FK CAS
I see that Top Tier nowadays is just a race to see who can get their CAS off first and who can protect their teams from said CAS better
Another thing is Russian tanks tend to benefit from volumetric armor due to how ERA was implemented. Gaijin subcontracts other studios to make the vehicle models, then applies their own damage models, modules, etc. ERA, for example, is just simply modeled as extra destructible armor, which means it will perform in ways that shouldn’t be possible. A game originally built for planes is going to have problems with making tanks works sadly.
I specifically run the f16 PoBIT to keep skies clear and my team focuses on tank battles. It will definitely increase your chances to win if you have good tankers on the ground. If you get teamed up with real German mains it’s an easy GG
Vice versa, I also run tanks if my team holds the skies. All comes down to how serious you are about winning and if you have the proper lineup.
Honestly, if I start playing America again, Im just running the F-15C Golden Eagle to keep the skies clear
Tbh it’s a map design issue. CAS is primarily used to blunt advances and flush out players in power positions, or the typical revenge CAS. Racing to CAS on the winning side is to prevent counter attacks, and racing to CAS on the losing side is to p the enemy advance and make sure your team has even footing.
That golden shower is good in ARB but the f16 on a small map with the agility, in my opinion, works better. I can stay low, avoid their missiles and hand them the business. 3v1 in close quarters makes the F16 king
For Cobra maneuver noobs, it’s not going to win you the fight pressing the button. STOP IT!
Fair but I don’t have the PoBIT yet so its the best I got other than the F-15E
F15E is dead since SM-SV popped up 😭 the golden eagle is still good but I feel it’s good in huge maps with its radar and missiles
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so with multiple proof of russians having too strong CAS missiles…
only russians have ATGM (heli launched) flight profile as it should but hellfires/jagms don’t…
only russians have top notch SPAA ot counter any CAS missile spam while others don’t…
only russians take so long to debuff bmpt…
they have bmpt…
To shoot at russian MBTs, gotta go pixelhunting. Urban debris on the ground ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT does zigzags ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT has bushes all over UFP ? Good luck shooting at driver’s port/breach (especially when you have the blur motion on, and that those bushes will “melt” with the tank’s armor in a blurry weird way). You shoot at russian MBTs from far away ? Good luck, gotta go pixel hunting. NATO MBTs in comparaison ? You point, click and shoot. Simple, easy.
Russian MBTs don’t need to have the best pen, because NATO MBT armors are paper. They have basically the same speed going forward.
russians have IFVs with much higher fire rate, laser accuracy, 2 cannons (1 main for HE/ATGMs, 1 autocannon), much faster than some wheeled NATO IFVs. NATO IFVs in comparaison ? Bushmaster, completely garbage.
are you blind or just act like alvis ?
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All I’m going to say to this, is you need to go look at the data per vehicle per tank per jet etc. ARB and GRB.
You need to read what I previously wrote, I get where your frustration is coming from.
You need to see how to use your tanks. No abrams or Leo should be losing a peaking battle against Russian tanks that’s Grade A skill issue.
Go see which tanks have the best and worst stats.
Play Russia all the way to top tier.
100% Russian bias doesn’t exist minus the broke BMPT and SM-SV.
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Tbf its not just the MBTs, its pretty much almost every single top tier vehicle at this point.
Selective realism as a balancing tool sucks, because if you do it once then theres no limit to it like Germany getting a fake LDIRCM on the UHT for balancing purposes.
Sorry but that has to be a lie, if you look at the current playrates theres no chance that new players flock mainly to those 2 when russia is positively exploding in players.