When I listed the top 20 vehicles, I didn’t state all of them were MBTs. I just stated they were Russian vehicles. I made the search broad to encompass what is considered “Top tier” by most, then just filtered it down to strictly MBTs in my analysis. I only looked at W/R since it’s the most debated issue. I never made any statements about vehicle performance I merely provided statistics. It’s not my fault my post was misused in arguments.
Ok see this is what I’m talking about, youve actually just proven my point by saying this… every time you reply to me its LITERALLY word salad nonsense of “i never do this” followed by some accusation that doesnt even make sense.
lets break down what you just said to me:
What does this even mean? I HAVE accused you of ragebaiting… thats it, almost nobody else in this chat has recieived that kind of message from me except for you. And trust me its not a false accusation, youre actually doing it right now… and im replying to your ragebait.
Again this makes no sense if you actually read my replies: the position of people like me and @SadRIPer and many others is actually the opposite. WE ARE THE ONES CRITICIZING RUSSIAN EQUIPMENT. So why would I be accusing or applying malice to people that are on my side???
I wouldnt, and im not. Im talking to YOU.
No i did not accuse you of raging, i accused you of being a contrarian and ragebaiting… there is a huge difference. Again you seem to have no idea what is actually being said by the people who disagree with you. It almost comes off as like you dont understand english or something.
This response from you is EXACTLY what im talking about. You literally cant, or rather you decide not to even follow the conversation, inentionally misunderstand people and then attribute malice to them simply because:
Youre not really here to make a valid argument…
Your entire purpose so for being in this chat is to confuse people, ragebait, and be a contrarian and i straight up think its intentional. No, I know its intentional.
Id like to add:
Is it really all i do? when Im making posts like this:
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Lmao you think p51 is undertiered? which one the D-30?? it really doesnt matter bc tbh if you are losing to P-51s, and i mean any variant… thats totally a skill issue man. Any time i see a p51 i know its a free kill, they are literally a joke. Gimped flight modelles that arent using their proper fuel octane and are shadow nerfed by the amount of minumum fuel they have to carry. the only decent p51 is the french C varient as it has way less minimum fuel. The p51s are trash
as for the Zeroes. have you played them at all recently? they are great planes… what are you trying to do with them? chase people all game that are faster than you?? maybe play the damn thing how tis supposed to be and youll do better??
Meanwhile you play the p51 how its supposed to: climb high and stay fast despite its abyssmal climb rate and weight. and it still gets outperformed
@MiGoon_Fox-3 Sheesh that explains a lot, you havent even played them at all. Annnnd. into the trash, your opinion goes…
I dont? Ive got frankly no idea since i neither have it nor play props all too often. My comment was refering to the 3 vehicles Migoon mentioned, not the P51.
Meanwhile youve also never even touched the Zeroes… Hmmm interesting.
So what experience and expertise do you have to make this claim then?
Lmao you think p51 is undertiered? which one the D-30?? it really doesnt matter bc tbh if you are losing to P-51s, and i mean any variant… thats totally a skill issue man. Any time i see a p51 i know its a free kill, they are literally a joke. Gimped flight modelles that arent using their proper fuel octane and are shadow nerfed by the amount of minumum fuel they have to carry. the only decent p51 is the french C varient as it has way less minimum fuel. The p51s are trash
as for the Zeroes. have you played them at all recently? they are great planes… what are you trying to do with them? chase people all game that are faster than you?? maybe play the damn thing how tis supposed to be and youll do better??
Meanwhile you play the p51 how its supposed to: climb high and stay fast despite its abyssmal climb rate and weight. and it still gets outperformed
An equal to the P-51H is going to go 7.0, while the P-51H remains at 6.3.
Objectively false.
They’re only good because they face people who refuse to fly by abusing their weaknesses.
This isn’t true for the H.
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So you agree they are good. 👍
Wow one decent plane out of like 12 p51s in the game.
Also what equal are you speaking of? The spitfire griffons? I hope that’s not what you mean because that’s gonna make me horse laugh. 😂
Source: Trust me bro.
They are not good planes, it’s just that the opponents are even worse. They aren’t even that fun since all fun is lost the moment you meet someone who has some clue what they are doing.
Yes. I’ve played the Mk24 and P-51H, and I don’t think one is meaningfully better than the other. It’s also just better than the Mk22.
You do realise ik people who do play props?
I don’t have to play them?
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MBTs are better than most if not all light tanks due to their armor, so mobility is not the end-all-be-all of top tier. What matters is a combination of mobility, firepower, and armor, which can be summed up as TTK. It doesn’t matter much if you can pen 600mm of armor and the other guy can only pen 500mm if armor if you only have 450mm of armor and need to take longer to aim for a weakspot. As such, there is an armor meta if you factor in the difference in TTK between merely being able to aim center mass and completely disabling a tank vs. actually having to aim.
As opposed to Russia which has the most armored mobile tank? You seem to be conceding that armor matters a lot.
Russian bias
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No I mean it, russian bias
Only barrel and tracks for both btw
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When you contradict your statements in your own post.
Raging-baiting is the process of raging at someone in order to upset them.
Something I have never done in my life, because it would require me to be inauthentic for one, and it would require me to want others to be upset which will never happen. Standard baiting is the intent to get someone upset with inauthentic statements [not raging].
To be contrarian I’d have to be claiming nation bias exists, a deeply minority view.
Accusing someone of raging at people to bait them into being upset is a serious false accusation; you are intentionally attributing malice to people that criticize Russian equipment.
1- I’ve defended the BMPT by demanding BMPT be moved up to 11.3/11.7, and later 12.0 alongside other powerful 11.7s that have no business fighting 10.7 Abrams and Leopard 2A4s.
2- I’ve exclusively demanded for decompression.
3- I’ve been criticizing Russian equipment for years, as all my posts prove.
4- I’ve agreed with most people on the forum on a manner of subjects.
5- I’ve done better and better to understand others.
6- I’ve never in my life thought anyone was being malicious in a discussion.
But yeah, keep claiming people that criticize Russian equipment, demand decompression, demand balance, et cetera are malicious.
All your posts have done is prove all of us right.
You disagree with everyone, for what reason? Is it because you misunderstood posts?
Could I and others have done a better job writing the posts to make understanding easier?
Cause I guarantee you and everyone on this topic: The only take I’ve stated that a large amount of people disagree with: “Nation bias does not exist.”
If nation bias existed:
MD326K wouldn’t be the BMPT of air RB.
P51H5NA wouldn’t be a different BR to Spitfire F Mk24.
M1A1 HC wouldn’t be a lower BR than USSR’s best MBTs.
BMPT wouldn’t be in a long history of incorrectly BR’d new tanks: With notable previous additions being Puma, and EBR; and EBR was even more oppressive.
That is the evidence that nation bias cannot exist. And even though that take of mine sees the most backlash, it’s still a minority of people because most people know nation bias doesn’t exist.
Hanlon’s Razor is easily applied to all bad balancing decisions.
There are other minor takes that a few people have disagreed with, but no where close to a notable amount.
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Watch this, that stuff is not exclusive to Russia.
Enjoy the last clip
Everybody know bro… He only here to make the point that he is making killings with NATO tanks while mostly everybody here have the problem with the game balance.
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Hate to breaking it with you, but MANY other people have a problem dealing with it that there is a massive thread about it.
Still the helis are OP
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lol what about the hull or gun mandlet or very exposed turret ring???
For that LAST time, I am NOT relying on the armor-- I am saying ITS NOT MODELED IN PROPERLY. (respectfully).
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