BMPT is my enemy and only concern for me personally since I only play GRB top tier most times. BMPT is the only Russian Bias I’m seeing in the game right now.
BMPT minimum BR 12, they’re less of a headache at 12.7 because the HC Abrams can actually make good work of it. But BMPT going up against tanks at 10.3 is genuinely criminal.
M1A1 is literally on par with or better than various 12.3 and 12.7 vehicles.
So yeah, it’s quite op.
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its on par with those i AGREE…i have noticed you kinda like to deflect…but he said the M1A1 is more op than the BMPT…the bmpt is more op than anything it faces at it current br and at 12.7…easily takes out main guns crippling your ability to fire back…if you pen and get like a crew member and ammo they can still shoot back…i have hit a bmpt got his fcs and power sytem and it still fired back…if you take out his guns he has missiles to fall back to…if you hit said missiles they dont damage the 35m guns…vs shoot anywhere M1A1 HC
M1A1 HC equivalents are all 12.7.
Leclerc is worse than M1A1 HC and is 12.7…
And M1A1 HC is hilariously superior than BMPT, cause even T-90M is notably superior to BMPT.
Edit:
Mussolini6969, AirNerd, posidestroyer9, alTF4, numbers, StazisMk1 in BMPTs. They lost due to lack of MBTs on the field, and poor defense of capture points.
Mussolini6969, and alTF4 are good to excellent players, yet neither made it to top 5 of their team that match.
Chinese sentence, and Japanese ?sentence? were their two best players on that team due to bringing T-80Us and playing well. Posidestroyer prioritized CAS frags and ultimately wasted his spawn points doing that instead of assisting in the offense and defense of capture points using their own T-80U.
Also base capturer streak x3 just for capping B 3 times. Big funny.
Final notes: You can give a man Matilda III, BMPT, IS-4M, M4 Jumbo… but if they haven’t studied the weaknesses of their weapons, that armor means little.
That’s how you get IS-4M losing a 1v1 vs T26E5.
That’s how even 10.7 M1 Abrams can destroy a BMPT.
That’s how Matilda III dies to Marder III.
And so forth.
And the BMPT I destroyed? They failed to destroy an Abrams in a 1v1, and ultimately I was able to assist the Abrams and they survived.
BMPT also shouldn’t be attacking B on Breslau, that’s just a bad tactic. BMPT relies on open environments.
Is this match “the rule” for all matches? No, no where close. Not provable anyway.
This match is just the rule for my personal experience which is not evidence of anything.
Only cross analysis can be used as proof.
Are the matches I experience at 11.7 exceptions to the rule? I don’t think anyone can know this answer. All of our experiences are minority experiences, and without nuanced details in Statshark, it can’t tell us the full picture either.
Edit:
I’ve lost a lot of matches tonight, and every time was a provable skill disparity between the teams.
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Are you seriously flagging chats? 💀
In the BMPT forum, I did a 10 game run at BR 12.7 with the BMPT and won each and every single game being top 3. The BMPT in the right hands is the greatest tank in the game right now at its BR bracket. Everything you look up on platforms about states how broken it’s turned top tier. Not saying killing it is impossible but even a decent player can create havoc. If you play it at BR 11.3 and get a downtier it’s practically game over in mins.
Criminally undertiered?
No. It’s the best at what it does at its BR, by a slight margin (and basically everywhere else in Air RB, mind you, America is not the top dog- there are plenty of areas where the spitfires and yaks bully). But with the P-51H basically every nation has some kind of counter to it.
This logic is flawed…t90m is a wayy better tank than a M1A1 HC…except the whole reverse thing as is tradition with russian tanks…except what yall say about the fire power of the abrams is the only thing i partly agree with even if i suck at tanks ik a t90m is a waaaay better tank than a Abrams no matter the tier…at least in warthunder…a BMPT can cripple any tank frontally…the bmpt is a 12.7 tank…simple…
T-90M is only better in 1 regard: Armor.
However, War Thunder has never had an armor meta among MBTs due to over-performing mobility as a universal trait.
MBT’s are so much faster than their real-life counterparts [except Type 10 and Leclerc, whom are closer to their real life mobility than everyone else] that the mobility meta remains.
When Abrams players remember this, they decimate matches having the most mobile armored tank in the game firing the best MBT round out of the 2nd best gun.
And no, BMPT cannot cripple “any” tank, it can some tanks, but not any.
Challenger 2 for example cannot die frontally to a BMPT at close and long ranges, and at medium ranges the mobility of Challenger 2 is still enough to dodge ATGMs hitting its breech.
Sorry, I don’t care how much you defend Russia, BMPT will never be as good as 12.7 MBTs.
Absolute Russian propaganda to claim that a BMPT can ever be as good as 12.7 MBT [except maybe Leclerc].
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shoots the main gun and disables it…i did not mean kill…but it can kill tanks frontally with the missiles…
average mobility…not the best…
BMPT is 12.7 material…
The tunel vision is real
Ah yes, skilled players play RU only … yes my dude.
That’s what people say when they cite Statshark.
People need to understand their citations before posting them.
i have no interest in proving anything to you… you are a troll, and a ragebaiter, a long time one at that.
What in the skill issue? It’s not, the T-90M is worse than the M1A1 HC.
The T-90M is the perfect skill check vehicle, seems like you are yet another person who didn’t pass that skill check.
You have that opinion exactly because you suck at tanks, the overwhelming majority of the good players have the exact opposite opinion.
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Again
- is the P51 actively ruining an entire BR bracket? No.
- is the P51 profiting from selectively realistic modeling decisions? Also no.
They do, you’re the only person who actively thinks that winrates are entirely an expression of player skill and vehicles have no impact on it.
I don’t think that, never have.
Knowing something is not thinking something.
It is not and has never been my take, it’s an academic reality until a statistician proves the previous statistician proofs incorrect.
@ElectedElit21372
All you do is falsely accuse [rage] everyone of being bad after they criticize Russian equipment.
Meanwhile I’ve never raged at you, which you falsely accused me of doing.