Youre correct but thats what external vs internal means in Gaijins modeling. Internal is everything directly in or connected to the crew compartment and external is everything thats somewhat disconnected from it. Its far from good but its mostly consistent.
they only remove vehicles that are not real. tiger 2 105 , panther 2 (the false one the put in rather than the real one) etc etc.
no vehicle is accurate though they are as accurate as they can be without being game breaking.
Recent addition not included in that statement.
because people don’t wan’t that in their game I am all for realism dude but there is a limit to where it goes from a semi simulator to full on sim.
It still is one of the most dominant 10.7 MBTs in game as well at higher BRs. 11.3 IPM1 11.7 M1A1 both amazing.
12.0 you get 4 M1 abrams in the M1A1 HC (upgraded one) the click bait (premium) then the M1A1 HC premium , AND ofc the M1A2 which arguably should be at least 12.3 as better than leopard 2a5
the engine is no where near what was used back then mate, it’s been overhauled and actually rebuilt a few times. One google search would tell you that.
You and I would both like to see older vehicles get rectified.
g91s, Swifts etc for me the cold war jets from the 50s and such are the funnest. But they’re all so dodgy or half assed they become tedious to use.
Or even look at tanks, Chieftain Mk5 in game is a mixture of chieftains.
They do not get the proper ammo
or armours.
the chieftain 900 literally has the correct armour but they wont implement it for the other ones.
The T95E1 technically should be using a T54E2 turret I believe it is, etc etc that era of vehicles is largely forgotten about due to how few people are interested in it now.
Sadly.
so the Mig21 was a pain at release sure but it got patched and it’s effectiveness dropped, meanwhile the likes of the F4E got better.
The F5’s buzzing around as you say as well weren’t that much of a pain though as both phantom and Mig could extend away from them with ease.
the J7E had some flaws though, no all aspects, 60 round gun,.
It’s a fantastic plane but it’s not basically an F-16 at all.
F8E or F8U2 as the u2 was my first plane of those BRs back in the day and it was a ballache for wing rip, you had to manage the speed extremely rightly to make sure it would turn without ripping it’s nuts off.
F4E dogs viggens. They have PD sure and 2 x skyflash, but that’s it.
LET ME CONTINUE THIS WORK
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Oh and they just happened to model Russian low tier tanks with external tanks but no other nation?
Almost no tank has internal tanks by that definition because there’s almost certainly some barrier between the fuel and other components.
An exterior tank is outside the hull. Thats it.
If your tank is inside the hull it’s not an exterior tank.
I don’t know what to tell you man, Gaijin just considers every fuel tank that’s not directly in contact with the crew as external.
NO, this is not CCs problem .I have 9 country top team(Includ Russia) .I think the top teams other than Russia are simply rubbish. Most players share the same opinion as me.Maybe you have a different opinion, but you can’t repersent many people .
If you firmly believe in your .Good luck to you
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u cpmpare rare low tier event tanks with bmpt? wich is premium one all players is capable to buy it or the techtree
I have also not really seen much intelligence coming from you, so this is a bit pot calling the kettle black (or whatever the saying is in english).
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Found an absolute gem so saying this because this was a stupid arguement.
I don’t understand why people are complaining that Gaijin are following consistent rules in this regard.
Yeah I’m so glad they consistently follow their rules so much that they made an exception for Su-25SM3, Su-30SM/SM2, Su-34, Su-30MKM AND SO MANY OTHERS… Truly amazing…
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Truly consistently inconsistent
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Nope.
Others were focusing on KDR, which the BMPT has a higher KDR in arcade battles than realistic battles in March.
Number one, that is not accurate to call me “not very good at the game”(I dropped many nukes). Number two, we already had a discussion with no resolve so I am going to respectfully stop talking about the Abrams and calling each other trash. (Hence the reason why statshark can be bad due to toxicity)
In my initial post i list off tons of stuff that isnt realistic…sooo maybe we should learn to read 1st eh?
Which was? The plane corrected itself every so often.
The smart thing was to take both, either 4 x pheonix and 2 sparrows or the reverse, 4 x sparrows and 2 x pheonix.
No Sh** the R24R was absolutely rapid especially if launched at altitude, don’t confuse the 7F burn time for extra speed, it extended the range exponentially though.
Yes the “dogfight” sparrow was better for the closer situations.
- 1 it was nerfed after it dropped like a week later it’s air frame got hammered-
- 2 it never released with R73s
Thye added R27ERs cause the mig29 was pretty poor when it dropped.
Sorry what?
R27ERs where better sure than 7F but the 9L absolutely dogged and still dogs on the R60M lol.
No the US had better IR missiles in the Aim9Ls as well as better air frame by miles.
While the 29 had the R27ERs which as well if we remember had to deal with a 100 meter multipath.
we bounced past gen 4 like it was nothing TBH in a matter of what a year or so? more or less.
If it got fixed it would slam like mad lol.
Especially in GRB.
It’s main thing sure, but it also absolutely bet everything in a dogfight as well as had substantially more missiles than most on the field.
Dude dueling is not how it performs in game, I’ve bet Mig29s in F5C you wouldn’t say it’s a better dogfighter.
If you get taken out by an R24T in an F14 it’s your own fault lol.
the mig23 didn’t stomp ont he throat of the phantoms that muhc, F16 and mig29 did.
F14A was an issue for everything.
Nothing i say would change anything, so why bother.
And im not Russian lmao.
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And vehicles that sucked.
See, you’re mincing words. As realistic as we can possibly get. If it’s “game breaking.” Then don’t add it.
bruh
Okay, cool. Then you have One-circle fighters win all the time. The Mig-21bis should be unstable at excessively high AoA, Mig-21 pilots were told not to pull that hard IRL. but gaijin lets the instructor pull that hard, because the instructor more or less acts like a god-tier fly-by-wire. Allowing aircraft to pull maneuvers they shouldn’t be doing.
T-80B is stronger Again, the biggest issue is the reverse gear. Any hulldown environment and you’re needing to pixel snipe. The gun mantlets on most NATO tanks are massive making it easy to kill them.
All the same weakspots. The only good thing about it is that you get multiple abrams that behave functionally the same, this allows you to stick around for a long time. That’s one advantage that most nations don’t have and that’s what makes U.S. lineups more “durable” than others.
But I’m glad you brought up the M1A2. Because when the M1A2SEP v2 came out, people actually DISLIKED it over the regular M1A2 because the tank was not only even HEAVIER and slower now, the CROWS basically gave away your position constantly.
You do realize… That even if you overhaul an engine, unless you literally scrap the whole engine and rebuild the engine from the ground up. You still have old code from deprecated unused features that can rear their head from time to time when they badly interact with something new.
The Gamebryo engine was overhauled several times, And then was used as the basis for the Creation engine. If you ever did modding for Fallout 4 and Skyrim. You can still see old features from Morrowind that actually carried over old bugs or caused new ones.
Some rounds still use the old Hitpower mechanics from almost a decade ago and it causes a massive amount of inconsistent performance.
It still is overperforming though. what made it “Go down in effectiveness” is that you don’t have an endless supply of phantoms to maul.
In fact, on initial release, there was times you would have mixed matches where there’d be Mig-21s on the U.S. side as well.
The biggest the F-4E got was a fix to it’s AoA within a month? Two months? Of it’s addition and the AIM-7E-2 was added months later, roughly around when the Viggen came out.
I was merely stating it as a matter of fact. Frontally, the AIM-7E-2 in a frontal aspect was actually better the AIM-7F. Especially in jousts.
The AIM-9Ls were good at that time but they weren’t end-all-be-all until you they were at a lower BR fighting Mig-21s, F-4s and craft. Again. Event F-4E got the AIM-9Ls and we see that the R-60 was better for missile jousts. The R27ER was a good compromise at the time by basically being super maneuverable. And this was supported by an HMD, something the F-16A didn’t have. Oh and R-27T. So you got stuff like this. The AIM-9Ls were the stronger option over the AIM-7s though.
Point is to show that the Mig-23 could keep up flight performance wise… I’m not saying it was better. It’s not like fighting an Su-27 with a F-100. They both had pretty great turn rates.
I mean, point was that you had the equivalent of an AIM-7E-2 but you could silently cue it and launch it at the enemy. The F-14 still has issues of being extremely hot, even in the front. The F-5C has a similar issue but it actually helps it which is why the F-5 is super cold and hard to lock on to. in the rear
It straight did though. You had look-down capability, better radar missiles, and the Mig-23 overperformed so much that the F-4E literally couldn’t fight back against it. You couldn’t outrate him, nothing. It was a massive improvement over the Mig-21. The only difference was that the Mig-23 had less radar missiles but the R-60s were straight better than the J’s.
It didn’t help that everyone played it. So you literally had F-14s on both match and the Top gun movie made it worse where it had a much larger presence when later on, the F-14 shock was gone.
The Mig-23 shock went away but it was just acceptance you couldn’t beat the Mig-23 in the F-4E and you still had an overperforming Mig-21. So basically for two patches the F-4E got dookied on.
You know the AIM-7F is supposed to have introduced a dynamically optimized autopilot that handles this dynamically, instead of the Dogfight mode fallback, of having to select from a set of constants.
War Thunder doesn’t properly account for how the F-4’s FCS functions, and really the only aircraft it would impact are those with access to the AIM-7E & AIM-7F (F-4, F-14 & F-15).
And the modeling of said feature for the AIM-7F is rough, and modeled as to conserve it’s long range performance due to arbitrarily constructed ramping the G-load based of Time To Go cutoffs instead of being smooth like it should.
Not at short range, especially after the arming delay for the proximity fuse (1.8 seconds), and control surface lockout was modeled.
Where would you even use the AIM-9L preferentially to the AIM-7F?
It also had a radar that couldn’t detect aircraft with a low / negative closure rate (even though it should), had engines that are significantly hotter than they should be (due to how engine temperatures are based of cockpit instruments) and is stuck with rear aspect IR missiles.
These days you can’t even run a 2+3+2 loadout due to the AIM-54’s requiring the forward tunnel stations for coolant (not an issue for the AIM-54C+), being exclusive with rear tunnel AIM-7s.
Yeah, because the F-5 turned up the same patch, in Red Skys which mean that MiG-21Bis had someone on a similar footing.
it was not
it was released in December 2022
its flight model was actually buffed slightly just after it was released
its major flight model nerf was in October of 2023
im pretty sure 10 months is not “like a week”
You play couple of nice balanced 9.0-9.7 matches.
You decide to come back at 12.7 :
9 games played, 9 games won by Russia (all losses were against Russia, all wins were alongwith Russia).
Holy unbalanced game, they completely ruined top tier GRB, and they don’t even bother doing anything about that.
Now the general rule for top tier GRB : you don’t play Russia, don’t expect to win too much.
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why is your game so bright-
