So you’re playing dumb then.
Gotcha, i think we’re done here.
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I mean we could also just take any random players stats like mine, or yours and sort all top tier MBTs by K/D or K/S. will we find that T80s are twice as effective as other top mbts because they are OP? If you dont trust several months of stats from december 2025 or basically any month before the last major patch when russia was still kicking, then maybe your own stats? Surely then russia was flavor of the…year or sth and all high skill players flocked to it. yet they still performed comparable in their tanks to all the low skill abrams players that were left.
This thread has caused more hairloss than chemo
Oh no, I didn’t see any post saying “NATO MBT bias/steam rolling”
Totally ignoring chinese abrams that was always showing better efficiency than russian tanks be it release up to nowadays. What is have to do with flavor of month? Chinese one is long way gone but its still better than russian tanks. Or it is wrong average players and it doesn’t count or any other excuse?
I saw this one a few days ago
Almost forgot that one. Yeah that was a hilarious situation after all the players that got clickbaited complained sooo hard about how bad the tank is (while being better at 12.0 currently than any 12.7 leclerc, by miles)
suddenly the abrams wasnt all so bad anymore. at least when played by players that had some sort of game sense.
Tell me, you believed this
It’s a joke post that devolved into an actual argument.
Welcome to the WT Threads.
Yep, it’s hilarious how people forget chinese abrams when it comes to stats. Now it doesn’t work and we have abrams being better on paper and by stats
My Russian tanks has quite nice stats, especially UE1 and T90M. Once i know how to use them effectively i passed 2K/D barrage with those tanks rather easily.
Only M1A2T and Click-Bait got really good stats on my account because it took me quite while to learn how to use them effectively, whats funny is despite playing like headleass chicken with my bvm it has better stats than my M1A2 models (except T one).
Safe to say Russian tanks requires low skill level while Nato one’s higher.
Which is quite good, especiall for T90m. Yet you still perform even better in almost every other MBT? Especially Japanese ones. And better in the Clickbait than in the t90? So how are the russian tanks op then?
Quite possible yes. Due to what i meant with rushing in like a headless chicken has higher chances of success in a t80 than lots of other tanks where you need to use map awareness and sound queueing much more. That playstyle favours t80s massively. BUT you also sort of need to play it that way and if your russian team isnt playing agressively enough youre in lots of trouble very often, because defensive playstyle favours other tanks much more. In russian tanks you rely on agressively pushing early and the enemies wiffing shots and making mistakes. As soon as youre facing 2 or 3 players that know their stuff and are very unlikely to make mistakes youre in trouble. If both players in Leo/Abrams or t80 dont make mistakes the Leo/abrams is much better than a t80 or even worse a t90.
Yet should those tanks be balanced against each other by the lowest possible skill level they can be played at, rushing straight onto the caps not caring in the slightest about where enemies and your own team are? Bc especially for premium tanks at around 11.7 and higher it seems like 80% of them play that way. (Except Type 90s sometimes)
If thats the only base for balancing them then good night…which it apparently is. Hence M1a1 aim at 12.0 and Leclercs at 12.7
They also have a lower skill ceiling. I no longer enjoy playing Russia because I feel like I can do better with US tanks. I only have the premium M1A1s and I still enjoy them more than top tier USSR.
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Chinese are some realiest hardcore gamers by their culture and even they also mocking the game balance on all over the places.
My clan is also asian based and they also see the truth.
We should done arguing and should poiting out the LARP MAXXING people.
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Buddy please do point where i mentioned Russian tanks are op, im waiting.
Ehh, for me they give me same about enjoy due to how spesific gameplay type T90M requires while Abrams and other Nato tanks are much more flexible.
I’m surprised that you didn’t just straight up blocked him 6 months ago lol
That was the whole point of the guy i first replied to by simply posting the current statshark stats. And then some other dude took offense on that.
Might have been misunderstanding your first message when you jumped in (as in as if you were arguing for russian tanks being broken), thats my bad.
No worries, i just stated that Russian tanks arent as bad as some people claim to be nor as op as other one’s claims.
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Because APS in general is pretty niche.
The T-90M only has armor and spall liners as advantages, the SEPv2 (since the M1A2 trophy is a SEPv2) is equal or better in every other way.