Why do you even take them seriously? Those people always loves to yap about NATO vehicles while deliberately ignoring Russian ones and claims they are trash.
It’s a compilation of the Abrams turret ring absorbing shots it has no bussiness absorbing, as well as it’s mantlet eating shots on a fairly regular basis.
T-90M Arena only has 2 charges facing front, instead of the Trophy’s 3 charges.
In fact, if you turn the Trophy-HV’s turret ever so slightly off-centre you’ve got 6 total charges that can be used to your direct front.
That’s 3x more charges than a Arena-M has towards it’s front.
Besides, are you seriously going to argue the T-90M Arena isn’t worse than a M1A2 SEP v3 or Trophy-HV simply because it’s got more overall charges? Which doesn’t even matter as most attacks will come from the same quadrant and the Arena-M doesn’t have more changes per direction than a Trophy-HV does?
So do it.
‘‘Half the time’’
There’s absolutely no way 50% of your shots fail to destroy the autoloader when struck directly. There are only two possibilities here: 1) Your aim is at fault. 2) You’re massively exaggerating the percentage.
So I’ve got 4400+ kills in various M1’s combined:
6.5 K/D in the M1 Abrams.
6.1 K/D in the IPM1.
5.5 K/D in the Trophy-HV.
5.4 K/D in the SEP v3.
4.9 K/D in the M1A1.
4.1 K/D in the M1A2.
3.3 K/D in the SEP v2.
The majority of those matches have been against Russia over the years.
So, do you think I’m ‘‘Defending Russia’’, or maybe, just maybe I’ve been utterly stomping Russian MBT’s for years now in significantly superior NATO MBT’s, and what I’m saying comes from a place of experience as well as data that I’ve gathered (and presented you with).
Why do you think all of the most experienced players (Cavenub, BPA_Jon, Hazeyy, Ryanberry, etc. etc.) say that Russian MBT’s are the worst at top-tier, whilst the M1’s and Leo 2’s are the best?
Why do you think M1A1’s (basic ones at 11.7) were picked over the T-80BVM in tournament play?
Why do you think the T-90M currently has the lowest overall stats of any 12.7 tank on Statshark?
Uhhh im quite sure i did. But you seem to know better than me what i posted and what i didnt.
Going after people? He made a public statement in the official forum for the game and i replied to it. If you or he can’t handle that i dont really see how thats my problem. I wasnt offensive, i wasnt shaming him for anything, just posting the open to see for everyone stats from statshark that drag all the stats of thereplay system of the game itself. If you dont like those numbers, or numbers in general and rather argue from your pov, fine. Probably a bit prone to confirmation bias but u do you.
Still doesnt explain why basically not a single player in official tournaments is picking the oh so mighty t80s over abrams or leos.
While that might be true to the degree of im mindlessly rushing into the whole enemy team in a better suited for that role t80 because of better frontal armor is possibly more successful than doing the same in a leo or a leclerc, that still doesnt explain why the average joe’s stats on statshark put all russian mbts for june 26 at the lowest efficiency of any MBT at 12.7
You might be onto something there. Keep digging. ;-)
U gave me such a nice arguments, not kidding. And u are right in most of this, i could have exagerated some things. Sorry for saying those things before, hearing another point of view is always important
And to clarify, there’s stuff I agree with you on.
The BMPT has a stupid and broken damage model, CAS is OP and should be curtailed significantly.
I aimed as low as possible, making sure to hit both the ammo and crew, yet it didn’t kill them.
(Yes, I collect these bits of evidence no matter the nation).
But I simply can’t agree that Russian MBT’s are the most difficult to kill or that it’s crew are most protected.
I also can’t agree that the T-90M Arena is anything more than mediocre (especially compared with the new M1’s), or that it’s APS offers better protection than that of the Trophy.
Wanna bet this is going to be the same thing after they’ve done playing US?
Flavor of the month?
Don’t lie that you aint see that they shadow nerf the BMPT to getting killed easier.
Stat this stat that yada yada yada
U know what? It is very understandable because that unjustified eating shots that should deal severe damage shouldnt happen. Yet it happens. On many tanks. And leads to lots of frustration playing the game. Ive argued many times how the stupid addition of trunnions made russian breeches insanely strong for no reason while other tanks breeches (especially Leos) spalled like crazy, ofc for no reason. (Luckily that doesnt seem to be the case anymore to that extreme extent) And why russian and chinese tanks have no basket or anything that stops turret rotation when their just enough armored around the carousel to stop all spall into the ammo carousel, while too thin armored to create any spall itself doesnt interfere with turret rotation when shot clean through while a basket created of mesh and with hydraulic powered turning with most likely redundancy does. Thats the actual bs about it. Tanks eating shots is annoying, yes, but happens on many tanks. Gaijins bending the rules and selective realism to bend rules of modelling stuff different for certain tanks/nations is what i hate much more.
Yet the snail argues they want to create more “consistency” by rewarding well placed shots that should do “critical damage”. Apparently they are fine with bending that rule to try to bring russian tanks on par. YET they still perform way worse atm, so as it is right now i dont really see a reason to claim “russian bias”. Well maybe except for sim. that mode is forgotten and lost to op russian cas at the top BRs.
You said it yourself: experienced players prefer the abrams because it performs better. I dont even need to argue on my behalf after that. Your already onto the solution.