TLDR, worse round isn’t felt because only 20mm difference, worse mobility is wrong. It has similar forward mobility and much better reverse. And the Merkava has better armor in hulldown and MUCH better survivability.
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The Merkava IVM is a better tank for long range engagement in War Thunder than the Abrams. It’s also a better brawler. I don’t understand why people are sleeping so much on the Merkava IVM when it’s factually a better tank than the SEP/SEPv2.
The Merkava IV armor might be all over the place but it does these things better than the Abrams:
Mobility with its superb reverse speed(-64kph vs -38kph) and forward mobility on par with the naked M1A2SEP. In fact, the Merkava IVM has better HP/T ratio than the SEP v.2 with Tusk/no mine protection.
Armor in hull down.(upper half of the turret armor is really tanky, capable of stopping even shots in the upper mantlet)
Side armor capable of surviving some autocannons where Abrams would die. Especially useful against the BMPT now.
Survivability(Merk IV damage model is so SO much better than the Abrams since they added the turret basket to the abrams, meaning you can brawl a lot easier with it)
Protected ammo in the rear hull means you’re not out of the fight if you get blowout paneled.
Frontal engine can tank some shots; it’s pretty random.
APS(Big against the amount of air launched ATGM)
LWS if not the SEP v2
Amount of smoke grenade to better survive helis/plane ATGM, especially felt when not playing the updated SEP v2.
IRST to target helicopters with time fuzed HE shell which is big.
Ability to rotate the turret 360° without deadzone. Being able to fire behind has saved me quite a few times.
Quite frankly, the M1A2 do only 3 noticeable things better than the Merkava IV. Depression(-10 vs -7), turret rotation speed(40° vs 34° sec) and smaller height, that’s it. All the rest, the Merkava IV is either so similar you don’t notice it or outright better.
Just because you say that doesn’t make it true. If that was close to the truth, USA would dominate sim battles with fixed nations but that’s not the case. Russia had a consistent 70%+ winrate since LMUR addition in Sim.
Even though I’m just repeating the post you answered, I will say it again since it’s apparently needed.
USA doesnt have the best tank, has mid AA, doesn’t have top tier IFV, has a decent light tank with the Stryker MGS, has the AH-64E, which is copy-pasted everywhere, and the WORST cas ability of top tier.
There is not a single thing the US lineup does better than other now, not a single.
You can literally see in your own screenshot I played more than 30 13.0 GRB games (actually hundreds because I played the ebrc jaguar alongwith 13.0 heli before the Leclerc, anyway)
I can show you 30 games then 30 games then 30 games then 30 games in a row if you’d like. I already did that and showed the results before, remember ?
Always the same results : 70-90% winrate for Russia. I challenge anyone to show me 30-50-100 13.0 GRB games in a row against Russia where the NATO winrates are higher.
What are you trying to prove with that tho? You could play 1000 games and youd still only have 0.00042% of the games that only the T80BVM played in January. Your statistics wouldnt even be a rounding error compared to the games played each month.
Uhm ok but like i said even if you played 10,000 games then youd still only cover 0.0042% of the games of one vehicle. So its kinda impossible for one person to get a sample size big enough to challenge global stats
Like if you want big numbers its not going to get bigger than what we already know
A lot of players would be better off not spawning for the team, some players goes 0-3/0-4 every matches, teams that doesn’t have them will likely win more.
Alright but for the 2,387,331 games the T80BVM had in January that would mean an average of 77,000 games per day.
Like i get what youre trying to do but youre not gonna get anywhere near a valid sample size with how big the game is.
@SadRIPer defending his precious Russia with all his heart.
BTW I’ve barely touched Soviets this year.
Not interested in hard grinding, and losing 3 times in a row stops me from playing Soviets for at least a week anyway.
I have 9 other tech trees that are far more fun to play.
The issue with using a high sample size (specifically in stat shark’s case) as evidence is that we don’t know what the sample size consists of. It’s not that I’m against statistics, it’s that we cannot come to a conclusion on how two vehicle interacts based on global statistics because there are so many factors that goes outside the scope of the conclusion.
For example, would it be wise to say that the IRIST is better than the Pantsir when it comes to taking out helicopters? Well according to Global stats, it has better KD than the Pantsir so in conclusion that would be yes, right? Of course not, LDIRCM directly affects IR missiles so that it doesn’t hit the target.
The same thing applies to when you compare the LDIRCM Heli vs the Pantsir using Global Statistics. It’s impossible to derive how good a vehicle is when it comes to taking out a certain type of target when all 4 types are combined into one (drone, heli, plane, munitions).
As far as my statement with the AFK, and stuff like that, it was to make a point that we can’t tell by how much the pantirs affected the 64E KD and vise versa. Though in hind sight, I definitely could’ve worded that differently.
What about italy? I’m looking at starting the grind for them again as It’s just italy and sweden to take to above 11.0.
The soviets I quite enjoy the T80UM2 and T80U at 11.7 but meh, it’s quite tedious the teams are absolutely useless.
That is true we can not analyse two vehicles against each other in a vacuum and i agree that the Pantsir definitely has a raison d’être at top tier due being the best SACLOS slinger but the other guy is correct. The Pantsir has so many games that if it was really good at killing LDIRCM helis then its stats would be better and LDIRCM Helis would perform worse at least the non russian ones.
How about i’ve just played 3 games back to bakc, and lost, funnily enough every single time to USA lol.
Sitting here chanting russian bias as if the big three aren’t babied af is just ridiculous.
I mean your monthly stats show you barely with a 47 percent win rate so it says a lot, coming barely halfway up the team each game lol
EDIT: Better than that, you’ve never used any other nation bar France and one US tank above rank seven. so what are you even on about russian bias etc, go use the damn tree properly and see how pitiful they are.
I knwo the arietes are right painful to use which is why I kinda gave it a pass once I got to the OF 40s and such