Which is 12.7, and offers nothing new in lethality against CAS threats
New 12.7 Pantsir :
“Russian bias doesn’t exist”
You don’t need to defend your russian lineups man, they’re not gonna nerf them anyway.
I’ll replay 30 13.0 GRB games as France against Russia. I don’t want to because it’s pain and it’s a loss 80% of the games, but I’ll replay them to get the screenshots and show the russian winrate is between 70-90% at this BR
Even if the number is true, your winrate should be tanking since the matchmaking will team your ass up with ru, 80% winning rate right?
Maybe try something different this time, only record the winrate when your ass gets teamed up with ru. Update the record here or I can look it up myself
Crazy. Absolute crazy. Dont spawn air. Seriously.
Was it really neccessary, Gajin?
Edit: Also radar angles up 90 degree??! This game is dead.
My winrate is 50%ish precisely because I’m sometimes teamed up with Russia lol
Otherwise I would have had the same winrate as NATO have in simulation ground battles (20-30%), precisely because NATO never play along with Russia or China in this mode.
When I post my screenshots, I always say the number of games, then the number of victories against and along with Russia. So it’s quite simple to figure out how many games were won along with Russia
This topic has some of the best War Thunder fan fiction that i’ve ever read.
5 seconds to hit 7km target
Can’t spawn jets midair anymore, you would instantly get shot without a miss
Same with helis, you can hide in the top corner of the map and you’ll still get shot down (can’t do it because you don’t have the 25km chinese atgms anyway so lol )
Another russian main? I’ve got 8 out of the 10 trees at top tier buddy, my most used top tiers are USA followed by Britain then china.
Because I can objectively look at the game and statistics of the vehicles and their respective KD’s in relation to how they function?
Thanks man exactly my point!
When your arguments rely only on global statistics, you’re not in the position to talk about my arguments evaporating.
I don’t think that’ll help you case considering low level premium players will get access to it…
Regardless, you’re missing the point, if it’s friendly, then you won’t see an enemy pantsir on the ground (only in rare occasions). Even if Russia is on the enemy side, do we know if an Apache spawned one before a pantsir does?
Do we know if it’s AFK? Does it have it’s radar down, or is it focused on a different target?
If a pantsir is actively looking at you, you’re behind cover, in most case you won’t be able pop an IR missile off before being shot down. Not sure what your point is here
Or it’s trying to shoot down something else, have you thought about that?
Do you see why relying on global statistics is never a good idea? Anyone can come to a conclusion of their choosing because no one can prove that it’s false.
It’s no wonder you like to use them a lot because you don’t need to justify your reasoning. Even Alvis doesn’t rely on global statistics which is quite telling.
Play 100 13.0 GRB games against Russia and show the wins VS losses, no more coping
Did you do it ?
Sound like trust me bro bais
I did and showed the results multiple times, but you told me it wasn’t proof and that I was “coping”
Also, WT Terms of Use and Services clearly state underage people cannot play the game.
i am not under age and you can report however you like.
the only under age here is you with the bais
you have arounf 1.5-2 kd is you KVT for the games that you played few days. the problem isnt you or you skill, but your teamate, we all know how us team is.
but still 46% winrate with the us as a team agains russia is preatty damn good and of course you cant take the truth since it will offende you and the bais.
you claim bais while having good stats. what a shame bro you want better thing which you already have.
you feb 22 session
feb 19 session
really sad we cant have a nice game discusson because of you people
I have 2 kd with the KVT and still get 80% lossrate against 10.7 Russia
Bias, and the game is forbidden for underage people I remind you.
Thats a very questionable deduction. Global stats with a high enough sample size are good precisely because they average out niche happenings like an AFK Pantsir or one with its radar down.
Good arguments are based on sound reasoning backed by objective facts or statistics. The Pantsir is certainly not the harbinger of doom against any CAS but if you compare it to the IRIS T SLM and see that it has only 6.5% less SL gain with 33% less kills then its fair to say that its probably very good at shooting down munitions.
It’s because I’m a decent player
But I’m still losing 70-90% of the games against Russia, I don’t make up fake numbers, I show every games I play against them in a row and the wins VS losses.
yes but does that sound like your claim ?
you didnt even play a 100 games yet you only play 30 and call it bais.
how does it sound fair that you can claim bais with only 30 game while other should play 100 games before they talk.
holy double standar @_Renzo just give up the counting already man its not worth it
TLDR, worse round isn’t felt because only 20mm difference, worse mobility is wrong. It has similar forward mobility and much better reverse. And the Merkava has better armor in hulldown and MUCH better survivability.
See detailed answer here:
The Merkava IVM is a better tank for long range engagement in War Thunder than the Abrams. It’s also a better brawler. I don’t understand why people are sleeping so much on the Merkava IVM when it’s factually a better tank than the SEP/SEPv2.
The Merkava IV armor might be all over the place but it does these things better than the Abrams:
Mobility with its superb reverse speed(-64kph vs -38kph) and forward mobility on par with the naked M1A2SEP. In fact, the Merkava IVM has better HP/T ratio than the SEP v.2 with Tusk/no mine protection.
Armor in hull down.(upper half of the turret armor is really tanky, capable of stopping even shots in the upper mantlet)
Side armor capable of surviving some autocannons where Abrams would die. Especially useful against the BMPT now.
Survivability(Merk IV damage model is so SO much better than the Abrams since they added the turret basket to the abrams, meaning you can brawl a lot easier with it)
Protected ammo in the rear hull means you’re not out of the fight if you get blowout paneled.
Frontal engine can tank some shots; it’s pretty random.
APS(Big against the amount of air launched ATGM)
LWS if not the SEP v2
Amount of smoke grenade to better survive helis/plane ATGM, especially felt when not playing the updated SEP v2.
IRST to target helicopters with time fuzed HE shell which is big.
Ability to rotate the turret 360° without deadzone. Being able to fire behind has saved me quite a few times.
Quite frankly, the M1A2 do only 3 noticeable things better than the Merkava IV. Depression(-10 vs -7), turret rotation speed(40° vs 34° sec) and smaller height, that’s it. All the rest, the Merkava IV is either so similar you don’t notice it or outright better.
Just because you say that doesn’t make it true. If that was close to the truth, USA would dominate sim battles with fixed nations but that’s not the case. Russia had a consistent 70%+ winrate since LMUR addition in Sim.
Even though I’m just repeating the post you answered, I will say it again since it’s apparently needed.
USA doesnt have the best tank, has mid AA, doesn’t have top tier IFV, has a decent light tank with the Stryker MGS, has the AH-64E, which is copy-pasted everywhere, and the WORST cas ability of top tier.
There is not a single thing the US lineup does better than other now, not a single.
You can literally see in your own screenshot I played more than 30 13.0 GRB games (actually hundreds because I played the ebrc jaguar alongwith 13.0 heli before the Leclerc, anyway)
I can show you 30 games then 30 games then 30 games then 30 games in a row if you’d like. I already did that and showed the results before, remember ?
Always the same results : 70-90% winrate for Russia. I challenge anyone to show me 30-50-100 13.0 GRB games in a row against Russia where the NATO winrates are higher.
