Mavericks are nowhere near as effective as the KH38, but ignoring them at 10.3/11.3 is also unfair…
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Never said that it wasnt? But no BR had a combo that was as oppressive as the KH38 + Pantsir one. And Mach 2 FnF missiles with a couple kms range are by design more oppressive than dumb bombs and guns.
Ill do you one better, theyre both stupid, because every popular nation/br has a plethora of dumb players since popularity = low average skill. But now russian doesnt have a “get out of skill jail card” anymore
Its absurd how good US CAS is across the board.
Just to name a few:
F4U-4B
AU-1
A-1H
A2D
A-4B/E
FJ-4B VMF
A-10A (Late)
F-4E
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Yes, there are BRs where US CAS is just as oppressive as KH-38s, just requires a bit more skill (aiming bombs/rockets). To name one, the F4U-4B and AU-1 (One is a fighter, and the other a strike aircraft, so they have different SP pools).
True.
A-4E + M247 was a funny one.
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that might be but for discussions about top tier only top tier CAS matters? The US has great CAS throughout the game but its never as much better than the rest as the KH38 Pantsir combo was
The HSTV-L cannot pen the spots with Relikt flat on, on the side of the T-90M and struggles with the BVM(this isn’t including tracks either). Does that sound scientific??? Lmao the math does not add up for what it says it has at that angle and it’s a well known fact that it overperforms, not that it matters much against anything with 600mm of pen(most top tier MBTs)
This literally checks out within the armor pen viewer it’s self no matter distance you put in! Yes relict should offer that much protection at acute angles however it seems to have that static value no matter what angle
Thats precisely the point, lower tier CAS requires a tiny amount of brain to effectively do damage while FnF missiles only require semi healthy fingers
Its not like top tier US CAS is useless, the F-16C and F-15E combo are still deadly asf. Its just not as good as KH-38 slingers.
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Then don’t shoot them? The ammo rack is just below the ERA, shoot that.
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This is a thread about RU bias in 2025, not about top tier woes.
If you want to claim bias you should prove a nation is OP at multiple BRs.
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However once you learn mid-tier CAS its more oppressive than top-tier arguably, as you can essentially hover over the battlefield and kill what needs to be killed easier.
No one said its useless but when the Pantsir was the only usable top tier SPAA the usefullness was super low while the objectively better A2G weapon could be used almost without counterplay
Not sure if i agree there. Id say that mid tier CAS still offers more and cheaper counterplay than the KH38 did
Nope, selective bias in certain BRs can absolutely be true
…for every nation
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True, i never said that it couldnt be, did i?
So why are people only highlighting one nation when apparently Gaijin is biased towards multiple ones throughout the BRs ?
All this bias talking is just nonsense and is used to rile up people.
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@glock991
HSTVL can and does pen the side of T-90M and other tanks. I know because I’ve done it at least half a dozen times.
The only time I would bounce is if I hit roof armor/tracks because 270mm > 160mm, but not >400+mm of track thickness.
ERA does not over-perform in War Thunder. I don’t know what your addiction is claiming “the west” is wrong about Relikt.
On top of all that, I 3 tapped 3 T-80BVMs using 120mm HEATFS avoiding their ERA bags on Fire Arc.
I fragged 48 Soviet tanks [just above the 44 needed per player to win] in Assault Arcade using 105mm HEATFS.
There is more to War Thunder than repeating myths about ERA.
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- Russian company so russian dominance will always be seen as more problematic.
- Because the 2 latest examples of russian/soviet overperformance (Top tier CAS/Top tier naval) are both based on 2 insanely questionable pillars (Kh38MT, Soyuz)
- Its top tier specifically which is the most popular and the most visible BR
@H_ngma
1- Hungarian company whose owner loves Sweden.*
“Russian dominance” is as real as the Tooth Fairy.
2- F-15E/I, Rafale, Su-30 has nothing to do with Soviet Tech tree only. All of which got balanced last major update thanks to new SPAA.
And Soyuz is alongside 3 German BBs. Again, not “Russian” bias.
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