Russian Bias in 2025?

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Holy cope batman

I could name dozens of broken vehicles from each and every nation, and some still remain overpowered to this day.
Though i guess it only matters when Russia’s involved.

i could also name many cases where vehicles from other nations are both much better than they should and better than their counterparts (cough cough rafale) and yet i don’t see you talking about those.

In these forums i have found a great amount of hipocrisy, especially from the people screaming “russian bias” 24/7, as they either have never touched the nation or were performing poorly in the vehicles they were deeming op.

Now of course this isn’t a phenomenon absent in russian mains, but the amount of people that fits the first criteria is far more significant

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1210

Your post should be flagged as inappropriate for straying from the forum’s topics, proving that Russian bias exists

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The War Thunder forum is the best example of hypocrisy, in their view the grass is always greener on the other side, every time I say they are crybabies they resort to all kinds of arguments, the first is about my name being in Russian (I’m not Russian) on the War Thunder forum 7 days a week for 24 hours 30 days a month and in 365 days there will always be a new post with a Russian bias, mostly US players lol

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1212

Okay then, i’ll hear this list of “dozens of broken vehicles from each and every nation”.

It’s not clear what you mean by this. are you trying to say copy pasted vehicles or close to them are erroneously better? or are you just saying that some vehicles are better than you think they are based on nothing? I think it’s very telling that the only example you have was a vehicle for which information on many of it’s capabilites are not available.

That’s because gaijin are baised AF. you have still failed to address any of the blantant examples i presented (and gaijin removed because they or their mods are amoral scum). there is also massive bias in favour of USSR/russian vehicles in mechanics, such as the USSR/russian tree alone containing the vast majority of vehicles with ERA, and their ERA and it’s decendents being the only ERA that has a serious effect against APFSDS, along with NATO HEAT rounds erroneously having far lower penetration than their soviet counterparts. Also gaijin not accounting for the horrendous ergonomics and lack of vision in some vehicles, the most aggregious of which is the T-34, but the panthers also have particularly terrible visibility.

“mains” means nothing to me. i’ve completed almost all of the ground trees. there are two trees that stand out when it comes to hand holding, germany but almost exclusively from 5.3-6.7, and the USSR tree which is by far the most idiot friendly with faceroll brackets around 4.0, 8.7, 10.3 and 12.0, with a large amount of help coming from busted premiums.

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It was actually entirely on topic. but the mods here are as bad as reddit mods, and gaijin can’t handle criticism.

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I mainly play WW2 battles in Sim so I’m maybe not the best qualified to comment here but I don’t see any bias other than the selection of aircraft available to Russia.

We have dozens of different Yak’s whilst other tech trees are missing aircraft, we still don’t have early Griffon Spitfires and we’re missing a few Merlin marks as well.

In regards to bias in comparison to performance there’s a pretty massive US bias if anything. Nothing like fighting an F4U1a in your C.202 or 109E and the P-47N could be 5.0br+. There’s nothing like having a high altitude fighter that outperforms all of the low altitude fighters on the deck and just straight up murders them the higher you go. Tons of others as well.

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Good old busted vehicles in faceroll brackets that can’t make you perform over your account average, classic “argument”.

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1216

Like the XP-50, XP-55, A-10A, F-5C, F-4S, F-20 and F/A-18C Early?

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1217

In brit tech tree there are 22 spitfires, right now.

In ru trech tree there are 16 yak prop fighters.

So i assume, you want to add more yaks now, right?

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US: M8lac, M22, M4a3 (105), M4a1, T18e2, T14, T55e1, T29 and T26e5 (maybe both not broken but very strong at least), T114, MBT70/Xm803, Merkava Mk1, M1a1/AIM (not broken just very strong), P49/39 (not too sure didnt play those in a long time just remember one or all of them are very strong), XP55, XP-50 (not entirely sure how it performs now without airspawn), Some f4us are very strong, A1H, F2g1, A2D1 For CAS, The F89s, F86 (not sure which version performs best, A4e early for cas, F8u/F8e, F5E is very strong but suffers from low max speed and lots of F5es (some with better performance) got put into other nations tech trees so equally strong turnfighters with good energy retention in enemy team, USS Iowa (basically the only playable ship besides ofc the Soyuz for 8.3/8.7 naval, though still absolutely dwarfed by it)

I’m already tired after one nation (for which i didnt even grind coastal, high tier planes apart from f16c and f14b max) or bluewater naval, so cant with confidence comment on those). Which nation’s broken vehicles u wanna hear, i can try to make a list

EDIT: Lol dude i checked ur profile, ur far from suffering, I’m sure you know which vehicles are performing well and are worth playing a lot. Did I just get baited? ;-) Holy T34-57 stats impressive man. But why this tank? Brings a smile to my face to find people apparnetly just loving the ship out of some random tech tree vehicle and absolutely slaying in it

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22 Spitfires than saw and entered service.

How many Yak’s are prototypes again that have been added for reasons unknown? I can give you an entire list of Spitfires that’d not only be solid additions to the game but were also operational aircraft.

Hey Gaijin a Mk XII Spitfire would be lovely. “Nyet, have Yak-3 VK107 wonderplane that was failure.”
Hey Gaijin how about a Mk VIII Spitfire? “Nyet, have Yak-3U wonderplane that was never actually produced”.

See the difference? This goes for most nations as well. Given the choice between another prototype Russian thing and a new 190, 109, Spitfire, Hurricane, P-47, P-51 that actually saw service which one would you prefer? This is the only Russian bias.

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All this mental gymnastics just to try to disproove that 22 > 16

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1221

You’re completely missing the point and going for a cheap “Derr GotCHa!” that didn’t really land did it?

You also dodged my question because we both know what the answer would’ve been. So I’ll give you another chance…

Would you rather have more completely obscure Russian aircraft that barely saw the light of day (and weren’t particularly good to begin with…) or a vehicle that actually saw service?

Hence my point:

1222

You could just say

And i would’ve agreed with you.

But you didn’t.

You double down and continue with your poor ragebait.

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Well lets see russian air ever since f14 was added has been pretty mid until the su30sm/r77-1, and even then rafale has been top dog pretty much. Mig23 has been our best premium for idk how many years now and it got its radar and fm crushed to dust since then. Meanwhile america has gotten a handful of modern premiums that are all at least decent.

Russian tanks after 9.7 are pretty much overtired and the only thing that carries 10.3 is the 2s38 which has horrific stats for how much people complain about it. 5 degrees of depression, abysmal reverse, and poor gun handling does not make for a great time on these small maps. The new 12.0 tank we just got should have been 11.7 as its a sidegrade to the t72b3 at best, didnt get any preferential treatment and it wasnt foldered. People like to claim ERA is overperforming, but if that was the case and it got fixed there wouldnt be a single russian vehicle over 11.3 and then people would cry about that.

Still no fnf agm helis

Sweden and germany still run top tier ground

Pantsir radar has been bugged basically since release and swaps targets to fired missiles/rockets 99% of the time.

America getting access to fnf agms in spades before we get planes that just carry 2 at 11.0/11.3 and generally have had the best CAS until the kh38 got added.

Plenty of criminally undertiered stuff in other nations like the xp50, wyvern, bearcat, pz iv, vidar started the whole spg mess, pzh 2000, 9.3 f104, turm III etc.

About prototypes germany and US also have gobs of them as well. Its not just russia.

Im not saying russia suffers, just that this isnt some propaganda piece, America and germany the other other 2 big nations are not ignored or purposely hampered by comparison. Russia like them has plenty of areas they overperform in, 13.0 air for instance is pretty much dominated by r27er slingers, t55s finally got moved up to 9.0, 2s6 was the most undertiered spaa until the irist, shvaks were clearly the big winners from real shatter and germany the big losers. T34 et al benefitted greatly from volumetric Etc.

But the only propaganda is the antirussian stuff you jerk off to on twitter that fuels whatever delusions you are currently having in a game.

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1225

Impressed that someone with your status is complaining about something trivial like this, you must have the game knowledge to make any tank work, even the worst ones, but you still have the nerve to come to the forum and complain about the so-called “Russian bias”

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Good players can also have brain dead takes

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How was any of that rage bait? At no point did I say anything antagonistic… you’re trying your hardest to make a mountain out of a molehill.

At no point did I say “Yak’s suck and we should never get any more!”, I stated that they’ve spent time modelling prototype aircraft that never went into service when we have multiple other aircraft that clearly did and would be excellent additions yet they’re all being ignored. The only Russian bias is the fact they’d rather spend time on something obscure instead of aircraft that flew and fought from other nations. Something you just admitted you agreed to.

So where’s the ragebait?

I’ll let you have the last comment as we’re derailing the thread.

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And russia is the only nation getting these protoypes? Everyone else is just stuck with production planes?

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Name me a main tech tree with more non-premium prototypes than Russia in WW2 tiers.

We have:
I-225, I-185’s, Yak VK107, Yak-3U, Yak 2KABB, TIS MA, Yak-3T, Su-6 and as I’ve said those are tech tree aircraft and that’s off the top of my head. If we get into premiums/battle pass vehicles dear god.

Even if we include the smaller tech trees where prototypes somewhat make sense Russia still leads the way. I personally don’t believe there is Russian bias except in this regard.