It’s fine the way it is, it’s only 10.7 not 11.0
Do you have it? Funny how every similar Russian tank with 3BM42 is at 10.3
Yet the T-90S is 10.7…
It is not fine you know the T-90s have some of the worst gun handling and not having a round that will reliably do damage makes them even worse.
I have no issues with either vehicle.
Id give up 3mb60 and stora for a .3 BR decrease to not see 12.0 and get dragged down by 10.7 premiums. 3bm60 isnt gonna make a huge difference and def not stora. You can watch thst EC video that i posted he said the same thing it should get a worse round and move down he even said the british one is better because it sits at a lower br.
Edit: sorry thought this was a different thread, so many crying about russia they bleed together in my head
Its @9 minutes or so
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It’s irrelevant when you only see up tiers though, 3BM42 on a tank that is pretty poor overall.
10.3 it was great 10.7 its 11.0 minimum and it can’t do very much vs the superior Russian and Western tanks.
and replace with ERA
Shtora eats up rounds like ERA
Every similar Soviet tank with BM42 at 10.3 either lacks thermals entirely, or in the case of the TURMS, a 9.3 vehicle with a coat of paint.
The Bhishma is not held back by BM42, it’s held back by being a Soviet MBT thus trading everything for passive protection. BM42 is quite meh for 10.7 by it’s comparatively low pen but using it I find it’s damage alright.
Deep down the issue is that Gajin brought in the Bhishma to give the British lineup some variety, and the variety y’all got is either one of the most Challenged NATO tank in WT, or one of the worst pact tank.
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Removing the possibly of seeing 12.0 tanks in your MM is irrelevant? I need what you are smoking brother. And 3bm60 is not gonna change things much, you arent magicslly lolpenning things or changing where you can shoot or even want to in most cases over 3mb4x.
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You don’t think giving a tank a top tier round wont change anything…No friend I want what you are smoking.
Unlike Russia Britain don’t have a million other 10.3-10.7 tanks you have the Cr1 mk3, Vickers Mk7 and the T-90S that is it.
Both the Vickers and the Cr1 have L26 a far better round
If a good round doesn’t matter remove the 3BM60 from game then? You can pen enough with 3BM42…I’m sure other Russian mains would agree with you.
Having to face tanks that 3BM42 doesn’t reliably work on is a challenge. It struggles vs M1 AIMs and Click Baits yet faces them regularly. Leopard 2A5 and above. 3BM42 is a short rod penetrator and in game acts as such
If it came with a BR decrease yes please.
So any br tank lfp and breach/abrams ring are immune to 3bm42? Thats news to me. Please tell me why you are shooting anywhere else in a game where the average engagement range is 400m and you have mouse aim.
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And if you cant see the turret ring or lower front plate?
Again if you don’t need a better round because weak spots are so simple to hit why have better penetrating rounds in game?
Then all you can see is the turret cheeks, which 3bm60 isnt penning, and you are better off loading heat to try and bonk them. If you cant even see their gun breach or barrel they arent shooting you either so you can also wait.
Better rounds dont mean a whole lot at higher brs unless you are using auto canons and the margins for pens are slimmer. You arent finding yourself in situations like t34 85 vs king tiger in uptiers, Armor and better rounds stop mattering nearly as much as gun handling and mobility which is where russian tanks suffer the most.
And Im not saying I have god aim or insticts, every match pretty much I have shots where im asking myself why am I so bad? I imagine a lot of players instead blame the round or think the tank they are shooting is OP instead of blaming themselves for a poor shot and you’ll never get better at the game doing that.
I cant think of any situation at 9.7+ where you are in even a full uptier and cant pen lfp/breach of anything you face, you always have options, this isnt ww2 brs.
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Yeah but adding a missile like the KH38MT that doesnt exist and then completely ignore the tons of bug reports and proof it didnt exist is Bias. Making the AGM114L a IR FNF missile would make absolute sense. considering, Spikes and PARs missiles exist.
Zero bug reports have been made with proof of Kh-38MT program cancellation.
Also AH-64E can use SPIKEs.
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Not true i made one and it was instantly taken down with no reason lol im sure thats whats happening. I did a ton of research into the whole thing there isnt any real proof they exist as they do in this game. KH38MLs definitely existed and plenty of proof there for them.
the reason was a lake of sources
then you should have definitive prove, black on white, that the 38mt was cancled
also didnt knew you had acces to the russian military archives to look there, because that is the only place where you would find a definitive answer on the kh38
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Buddy what are you even saying, the bishma doesnt face leopard 2a5s as it is 12.0… also the 3bm42 is not a short rod either IRL or in game.
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Oooh, you mean the Shvak? The fast firing pea shooter? Whats the problem there?
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Yes, this is historically correct. What is the issue here?
Uh, proof?
Well, the community voted AGAINST APHE changes lol. (and every nation more or less has APHE; is this bias too?)
Proof?
Uh, the AMX-50, SOMUA SM, AMX-40 TOA-100, etc all have extremely good armour that bounces shells. And they can pen anything they face…
But it still gets an ATGM, no? This is CLEARLY bias.
2S25 has a 4s reload? Obj 906 is 4.3 and has only APHE, HE and HEAT-FS. 2S38 has an autocannon…
Yes, something we can agree on
Overrated
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76mm HEAT-FS… a fart does more damage than it can… and it can be .50 cal’d frontally lmao. Its so slow too.