Russian Bias in 2025?

You mean the “Same Exact Protection” v3?

The tank that wont change anything thats wrong with the prior M1s?

People time and time again said that the SEP and SEP V2 would make the hull better, the cheeks thicker, and the TUSK kits would greatly improve their survivability. Instead they sport the same armor as the original M1A2 and the TUSK kits are nothing more than wasted weight slowing down a already heavy tank.

The only benefit brought by the SEP series so far is the better optics and thats it, if anything they got worse because of the remote weapon systems and crew protection installed ontop of the vehicle which now allows for an extremely easy HE kill on the later M1s.

The SEP v3 will not change anything, its going to be just a SEP v2 with some stuff bolted on and maybe Trophy, neither of which resolve the actual issues with the M1 series.

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Look man I already know that , what I want now is an solution to Abram. All variant from the earliest to the latest , what could be done to fix them. Ignore the CAS/SPAA and Heli. Those can be a discussion of their own. What could we , possibly do to make them meet you US players expectation. Im being serious here , that the question

Then that kind doesn’t explain why Soviet MiG-21Bis has the better stat despite being available to multiple nation. Same MiG-21bis across the board btw

you want my document or take my word on what im going to say?

the SEPv3 visably increased armor thickness so gaijin cant claim bs about the armor not changing despite evidence that it has like they did for the other SEPs

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First by starting to buff the turret ring to 200mm of protection, second by adding DU to the M1A1 HC’s hull and maybe more tanks, third fix the hydraulic pump even when damaged it wouldn’t disable the horizontal…etc, i’m going to add few bug reports that would give an idea.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xK4GPBS59dUL
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Y2HnjTv8kNAG
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m0ITNd22gRXO
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/D1Wg94Hrg2Vg
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K

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i have one of the report or document about the usage of depleted uranium in tanks
the M1>A2 has the same hull layout(different in composite generation and array) which the A1 should have marginally better hull than the M1 and so on
the report was made after and around the time SEP was introduce and given things like the AIM the SEP would make sense to have improvement in hull armor further(since the turret side was also improve) more V3 of course would have better and the best armor out of all Abrams
follow by the V2
during the swedish trial they outright said the export version is way worse than the domestic one for comparison

Actually there a pretty decent chunk that needs to be fixed.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9pd3QSYFMjsV

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ULvSC60SVBFw

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/I9SK1Z8A6c4I

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xK4GPBS59dUL

Please, try and prove to me that the massive weight increase of TUSK is somehow worth it in game for protection that is only a hair better than the ancient ERA slapped onto the M60A3 and somehow worse than kontact 1, or how every generation of armor package made for the M1 series somehow never actually modified the protection, instead they only made the tank heavier.

Bold of you to assume that means anything to gaijin, its getting the same armor, I expect nothing less given their track record. Heck if you want a non-US example of such, just look at how the Leopard 2AX series is somehow still using the same early composite make for every single 2A4 when it varied greatly and many 2A4s in game are obviously late make 2A4s.

Still love that there was a report about this on the old forums showcasing a Stuart penning the turret ring frontally with it’s 37mm and nothing has changed since.

I just want them to added it already so I can see how they’re going to F it over.

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The CATTB is straight up the only possible saving grace for the US tech tree at this point.

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They will probably ended up gimping that too

its because Gaijin wont model TUSK or any NATO ERA correctly you can look at chally or PSO kit and see
they would definitely be better than the ERA that was made in the 70s dont tell me you think the current TUSK ingame is correct

you obviously new to this subject
or you mean that ur entire arguement is what Gaijin would say when SEP V3 sooner or later is introduce

Aight so you cant prove to me that TUSK is worth having in the game. You do realize that my original argument is that gaijin FUBARed the implementation of TUSK right? You might want to re-read my original statement.

You really need to go back and re-read my original post if you somehow think I’m at all defending gaijin or their implementation of the M1 series here.

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so gaijin and their ingame abrams is incorrect is what ur saying yes?

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Plankton Correct GIFs | Tenor

Horribly incorrect in a myriad of ways along with functionally every NATO tank and I have 0 faith that gaijin will do anything to make the SEP v3 anything but another horribly incorrect mistake.

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OH MY FUCKING GOD THEN JUST SAY IT WHY DO YOU NEED TO GO MERRY GO AROUND THE WHOLE TIME GOD DAYUM

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im boutta blow

ah wait i get what you said
so if sep v3 is ingame gayzin would fked up again
ok understandable

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I’m guessing you did not pick up on the joke I led in with, but the SEP series in WT is jokingly referred to as the “Same Exact Protection” upgrade package because gaijin, for some reason, thinks they have the same exact protection as every other M1 past the HC.

My original response was more in place to mock the notion that, somehow, gaijin adding the v3, given their track record, would somehow solve the US tree’s woes. (It wont)

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i got bait so many time i just default to aggessive behavor

Please enlighten us on what is wrong with the Abrams. Or are you just mad it is not the fastest, strongest tank with the most invincible armour, can swim, can shoot through anything, and can be invisible?