Russian Bias in 2025?

Most likely, the tactics against the BUK will not change - fly low and spam a ton of GNSS weapons.

How do you think did I get to that close range?

By a combination of terrain masking and notching it’s missiles

Which is how you defeat any SAM, once again you aren’t doing much convincing, besides SAMP/T will have the same issues, with a slightly less powerful missile, point still stands that you have to put far more effort into dodging these new SAMs than actually trying to kill them, so it’ll turn CAS into more of a wild weasal experience than anything else

Tight first with SLM basically, as it currently stands in the last iteration of dev server

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Good, like it should be in the game mode for ground vehicles

The SAMP/T dosent have the issue of the really short range shots which makes it better against targets that already got close

Also there is one SAM that can’t be multipath Ed at all and where the missile dosent even gives you a launch warning and yet ppl are saying that the BUK will be by far the best AA in the game

Buk is way easier to defeat than the IRIS-T

IRIS-T has way better performance against close targets and it dosent give you launch warnings,
while having better pull than the missiles of the BUK

Your campaigning that the BUK is some terrible SAM is falling on deaf ears, everyone knows it’ll be launch Pantsir 2.0 and the only people claiming otherwise are russian mains

Still haven’t been convinced by any of the supposed “proof” that was posted here. And I have 8 (soon 9) nations up to top tier ground.

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Where did I say it is terrible

Iam saying that it isn’t going to be the best new Sam like some ppl in here are claiming

Look at my profile ingame and count how many matches I have in Russian tanks

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‘Nowhere near the best SPAA’ implies that it’s worse than all other competing top tier SAMs, so choose better wording ig

Absolutely not. Anything under 1.5km you won’t hit. You did not test SAMP/T, did you ?

Depends what Scenario. I know IRIS-T gives a lot more reaction time to spam GPS guided ammunition from far and high than a Buk for example.

Of course is the map is flat and you get too close, yeah IRIS-T is better. That’s why i said “tight”

Not my problem that you throw yourself in with that crowd, I am referring to the playerbase as a whole, being the reason I used ‘mains’ plural

And the Buk struggles with anything under ~2.5km means it has worse close range perfromance

Because Iam not absolutely delusional like some ppl

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Because it’s not a close range SAM system, you wouldn’t expect a Tiger 1 to be flanking and scouting would you?

That is true but the BUK isn’t doing so great at it’s intended ranges either due to how easy ARH missiles are to defeat, especially at longer ranges

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90% of testing i’ve seen shows the contrary, it can effectively hit a maneruvering target up to 40km and still maintaining 1,300m/s velocity up to that distance.
Meaning in most scenarios it’ll easily be able to smite anyone who dares to travel above 2km and isn’t focused on defending up to 8 missiles at any one time, sure it’s easy to claim they are easily defeatable when testing in a 1 on 1 custom battle, but in a match-scenario there are a myriad of other factors, including other threats that’ll decrease your ability to notch, let alone retaliate

Try doing what that guy does at 2:18 with an Aster, and tell me how that goes

They’re basically identical in short range.

You know where they aren’t though ? Long range. Aster gets subsonic under 30km (usually around 20 km for a low flying target). Aster has the Cx of a brick in game

120km range missile btw

Surprise surprise that Russia need new AA immediately after other get new SPAA but other don’t after pantsir for two year straight lol

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