You shedding rivers of tears because of that brochure while totally ignoring this one doesn’t look great.
If you accept this your crying days about 38MT are over.
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Because people dont care about fake stuff that only fills a gap and is mid at best. The problem is fake stuff thats unbalanced. If you add fake stuff thats broken then its only broken, because the developer wanted it that way since you cant add something fake in an accurate manner. Thats why people dont complain about the F16AJ and the Yorck but soyuz is hated.
Presentation.
That’s actually even worse lol.
and how is that a better source than a brochure?
how do you know they dont lie in those presentations?
the F-16AJ was litterally the best F-16 when it was added
38MTs fill the gap and those planes are mid at best.
No, problem is all unbalanced stuff.
You can add broken stuff that are perfectly realistic.
Doesn’t change the fact it’s too strong.
Why would they lie at an Industry event they have been invited to speak at? Especially representing your own corporation’s activities; Lying to your (prospective) customers isn’t a very good way of converting interest to sales.
Not at all - you either accept the same level or bar of entry for additions or you don’t.
The Kh-38 is almost a perfect example of one rule for one, one rule for others.
If don’t see the problem with that, then that’s your call. It seems clear that so long as your personal pet favourites get additions then you are fine with it, but everyone else can get knotted.
funny, becasue have you seen us openly cry about the JAGAM?
have you seen us make US-bais cope threads?
Yes, but Russian Arms manufacturers NEVER lie or provide over-estimations of their products capabilities. Only Western ones!
You should tell yourself that.
You mean like JAGMs ?
you are displaying double standarts
how do you know US maufactures dont lie?
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You’ve made the accusation - you back it up.
Filling the gap is not the same as punching the powerlevel completely out of the roof.
True thats why broken stuff need to be nerfed or get peers to fight against. But you completely ignored the most important part of my comment. If a fake thing is broken its completely on the imperative of the developer since they can design fake stuff in a balanced way, because there are no (or not many) real values to go by. Thats why people rightfully scream bias when they see Soyuz, Gaijin had every possibility to release that thing in a balanced state but decided not to
Proving a negative is impossible, remember that argument ?
Thats not a negative. If he found evidence of US manufacturers lying he would have his proof
which should be fairly easy tbh
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Are you even reading half the thread?
JAGMs get mentioned - you contest that the information for them is from a brochure.
Tripod explains that, no - it’s a presentation from the arms industry.
Ron says ‘they are lying.’
I say, prove that they ARE lying.
You then seem to think that asking for proof is proving a negative?
point is atleast the su35 can use dual pylons for r77s, dual r77 pylon is real in a flanker . but we haven’t seen any pics of eurofighter with dual pylons for amraams. gaijin probably thinks su35 would be to op for war thunder and su27sm/30sm is underwhelming (compared to the rest) which is probably why they gave it su35’s weapons (kh38 , dual pylons). i wont be surprised if they end up removing dual pylons for su27sm/30sm once they add the su35.