Look in the Rafale thread or even better in the EF vs Rafale thread, at this point buffing the Rafale is a running gag (and its literally just the Rafale and nothing else french)
Yes because bias is not just „it’s the strongest“ it’s „it’s the strongest and it’s kinda questionable“ which doesn’t apply to the Rafale and the F15
True but that’s the point, what is more important, details in a brochure or actual reports that said weapon exists and was tested
look at who made that thread
again the claims from the community about russian bias existed as far back as 5 to 6 years ago
long before the Kh-38 was added to war thunder
so how are you going to get those details?
surely they know how fast their missile is by not testing it
So you made the biggest shit on Rafale superiority thread and still ask where people hate on the Rafale?
I’m not the community, I’m a firm believer that Russian bias is a new phenomenon and everything before that was just lazy modeling work („Stalinium“)
The secret ingredient is making stuff up (or taking values from similar missiles and making the rest up)
you didnt get the point
why isnt the community crying french bias like it does with russia?
that is simply wrong ppl have used russian bias as a bogeyman for years which cemented it into the war thunder community and is the reason why you are in this thread rn
so what other missile with an IR seeker does russia have to get the seeker stats from
Yes and does L23 break the game, has it changed CAS forever has it facility to the meteoric rise of SAM systems…No so stop it.
More Biased Russia only nations with a SAM SPAA at 9.3…
Gepard is 9.7
Ozelot is 9.7
Why is the Zsu-23-4M 9.3?
wrong
Fair enough, you see more ZSU than these. I do think we really shouldn’t need sams to deal with CAS at 9.3 it is totally overkill and players should just learn to aim.
but that dosent change the fact that they are at 9.3 as well
i dont think so
SPAAs should be strong at every BR i dont care about cas suffering they deserve it
I agree
CAS at these BRs is dependant on dumb bombs many aircraft don’t have flares. Radar guided autocannons and some IFV proxy rounds are more than enough.
Wanting CAS to suffer…Why? We have benefitted from CAS and cursed CAS I have had team mates bomb a Maus that was surely going to kill me.
there you are wrong again
this gets bullpus at 8.7
and this gets the walleye at 9.3
2 out vehicles at these BRs get Bullpups…
You missed out Scimitar and Buccaneer
based on that we need missile SAMs
Igla is worse than Stingers, that’s why it’s a lower BR.
Gepard and Ozelot also have vastly superior search radars which is another reason.
Every 9.3 lack search radar, missiles, and/or count.
Igla is great vs slow jets that don’t have countermeasures.
It can lock ground on that distance not vehicle all Kh-29T carry same seeker TV and it’s max range for locking vehicle is somewhere around ±12km and it heavily effected by weather weak fog can limit lock range to 8-6km.
Have you considered that I might be building a functional lineup, first(you know be a useful team member). and besides AAB/AGB is the better mode for grinding(and is less fighter focused than ARB), I’ll get there when I get there.
Literally finished spading the XM975 last night(the rate at which helicopter’s get picked as the Airstrike option makes me sad considering how useless it is against aircraft), which means I’m free to move on to 11.3 Abrams(the good ones, apparently).
That would be even more stupid.
There have been periods where Russia top tier ground was genuinly oppressive and it was years ago.
Because it’s a minor nation and only 1 plane and there’s a ton of outcry especially when a new buff gets out
Like I said I’m not part of the people who cried Russian bias in the past
None, they are lying which is not uncommon
So? Being strong is not a proof for bias, being strong for stupid reasons is
What could be valid reason to be strong ?