Russian Bias in 2025?

ERA is not the permanent armor, it’s a “don’t shoot here” warning while the rest of the turret is entirely weak.
Abrams weakspot area is as large as the standard turret area of the T-80BVM which itself is weak.

There’s a reason almost all players at top BR shoot the turrets of T-80BVMs, it’s weak and easy to deal with.
And Ariete is here because it’s turret is still weaker than the T-80B’s.

Edit:
And yes, without the sometimes-single-use arrow heads, the armor behind 2A7 is around 600mm thick from the front; I am aware.

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Except the 6.5 second reload is incorrect. For a full reload, gun centering, loading and locking the breech on T-64B, and T-80Us, is 6.0 seconds.

Considering the game doesn’t account for hun centering, and given the fact, the T-80U loader can load as quickly as 3.78 secs given where the next shell is, it makes 0 sense to be 6.5 in game.

It should be 6.0 secs in game at worst.
For the T-80U, UM2, UD, UE-1, and UD-1 they should all be 5.5 - 6.0 secs

Now the BVM is odd, because it can get long rod darts, 3bm60 which makes it every other, which definitely makes sense for a 6.0 sec reload.

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What’s funny, is for the Leo, you used a very unlikely position for the T-80BVM, as it sits lower than a Leo2a7V.

And for the BVM, you picked an angle far lower than the Leo sits.

Your argument is very invalid with these images.

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Complain to Alvis those are his positions to “prove” how BVM armor is weak (430mm cheek armor) . I merely recreated them with Leo.

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Is the Apache’s gun under-firing or am I just lucky? I’ve had a hard time shooting down multiple planes at point-blank range, and it always misses.

Translation: Is the gun on the Apache a dud or am I just lucky? I’ve had a hard time shooting down planes point blank for a while now, and they always miss.

The Apache fires a bit sporadically and has low velocity rounds. Not the best for shooting anything moving but does decent dmg when it connects.

KTH was easily 7.0 material pre-nerf.

The dispersion on the apache gun is criminal, about 4x wider than the ka50 with much less damage
The apache is obviously op though so it makes sense they would gimp it

@Demokrat4
Thanks to tens translating.

Crew skills could be harming your dispersion.
The jet was mid-maneuver and helicopters don’t like maneuvering jets either, tho crew skills can help a little.

@ExcaliburSniper
Dispersion was the same last I tested, but that was back in 2024. I tend not to test helicopters often.

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Quite opposite Ka-50\52 should be more accurate than it is in the game

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Given that it’s 30Mm is able to shoot down drones IRL I suppose you are right.

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They have ± the same dispersion on a similar belts. APDS make the difference, not the gun.

Its low velocity grenade launcher, not made to shoot planes.

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why are you comparing an area gun with a tank cannon

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@pvt_wade that excuse doesn’t work for low rate of fire, besides the shrapnel damage is still far too low (as intended). Apache might actually be good at one thing if they made the chaingun realistic and not their little fantasy version of it

If he ate the entire stash of ww2 chocolate he found in the back of a tiger 2
Probably

But how doas that matter the tank doas have an autoloader so its safe to assume thats whats used most of the time

Unless they do a bmp1 and remove the autoloader completely (besides of being slow its also this autoloader were the limb Eating stereotype for autoloaders comes from)

all T-80’s are using an autoloader
and the autolader is able to reload a shell in ~4 seconds if it is the next in line in the autolader

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