And yet you did.
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my last 14 games in a row as a US-SWE squad, queues were dead equal for the 3 majors
russian mains moaning about the IRIS-T and 2A7 even though 1. their helis are immune to it and 2. the matchmaker is literally rigged to prevent them from facing germany lmfao
b-b-but one of the games had germany on your team!!!
only 3 players yeah lmao
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Huh
Russia is on par with germany america is lacking
Below long 90mm u cant even pen tiger 2 turret
You made my own argument…those American and Russian shells are rather similar…we may argue which is actually better…but lots of variables…
IMHO…based on experience not stats…and this i admit can be skewed…the US 76mm has a better chance of a first shot kill…the 85mm feels less effective both penetrating and after pen damage…although the difference is small.
It depends on specific shot and target of course…but i feel i get more consistent results with 76mm US.
(It may be that 85mm can pen at more angles…but this effect is not so visible to me)
Same argument for 90mm US…but conversely i like much more the Russian 76mm…the US 75mm is not so good…feels “brit” when using APCR :)
My point…it is a close contest EITHER WAY…no “bias” that i can see…and for sure no huge russian advantage…
Oh wow Mi-4 is immune to IRIS-T i didn’t know that probably even devs didn’t know that either.
I wounder how often a mi-4 has to see irist
Pretty sure there are more bf109 getting shot down by r73 than mi-4 getting shot down by irist in this game
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I see russia on par with USA and Germany a bit ahead…
Not sure on specifics, i do kill KTs with 90mm but not sure where i hit…90mm works great on M26 family…but not so good on M36…as it is the same gun i am guessing the tank “survivability” has an effect on gun perceived performance…odd sometimes…
BTW…KT is a great tank with a great gun…one of the reasons i prefer Germany :)
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How exacly?
Russian aphe performance is objectively better
With short 90mm u cant pen tiger 2 from the front exept the muchin gun port and even that is a gamble
The first usa tank to pen tiger 2 is the t261e1 on 6.7
Means if ur playing a tank below 6.7 and u face king tiger u are screwd
Meanwhile u have russia with the isu-122 on 5.3
Also side note KT was op
Now its just great(might be still op we will wait and see)
The 90mm also works great on the M36, b3cause unlike the M26 family the M36 actually has mobility going for it.
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There’s not a whole lot of vehicles at the 10.3 range, so it might be a bit misleading.
- CV90 105: 5.0s
- CCVL: 5.0s
- Boxer MGS: 5.0s
- M1 Abrams: 5.3s
- Challenger Mk2: 5.3s
- FV4030/3: 5.3s
- 120S: 5.3s
- Leo 2AV: 6.4s
- Leo 2A4: 6.4s
- Ariete (P): 6.4s
- T-80UD: 6.5s
- Vickers Mk7: 7.1s
- TAM 2C: 7.1s
- TTD: 7.1s
- T-72B: 7.1s
- M60 AMBT: 7.1s
- ZTZ-96A: 7.1s
- M1128: 7.5s
It’s definintely not ‘‘decent’’ as it’s the second worst at around the BR of 10.3 I can find.
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Decent cuz there is alot of vehicles that are like or very close to u
Also alot of ppl doesnt even have expert crew
Guess it is “user error”…or the fact that i play AB…where you cant hit and run so well…
Turrets on most M26 family tanks can take a hit or two…unlike M36 :)
Never could use M36 very well…much better on M10 where the relative armor is much better…
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Not sure if “op” applies…but was one of those tanks that are “above average” at their BR. My doubt on the “op” is that they were probably at the right BR…higher would make them “too weak”…
But this also applies to T34(42) some M26 family tanks and a few on other nations…there are several “above average” tanks…and makes more sense to me that KT or T34 are some of them as they are “historical” vehicles…
What annoys me is “ahistorical” vehicles being “dominant”…but this is a bit offtopic…
Fair enough I can imagine that the M36 won’t work as well in AB, but in RB the M36 is absolutely goated (I personally even prefer it over the M18).
False equivalence fallacy.
You intentionally chose the weakest part to counter the strongest part of T-80B’s turret.
The only reason I angled it was so no one could argue that it was “the breach area” of the armor, because people did that previously despite the breach area of T-80B being ~200mm of protection instead of 430ish.
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I know that, aircraft seem to be the worst with a 75mm cannon protruding from EVERY orifice. As mentioned in a previous post of mine regarding Russian BIAS…" can’t wait to see a RUSSIAN MGB with a spare triple 12" turret that happened to just be laying around".
What are you talking about ?
I’m merely recreating what you call “T-80B’s cheeks are ~430mm thick.” (thou it is a BVM on your pic.) on Leo 2A7V:
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Yet another false equivalence fallacy.
You can’t compare weakspots to strongest armor.
Also your image proves that 450mm is larger than 250mm.
Keep defending Russia all you want with false equivalence fallacies, I’ll call them out each time.
BTW, here’s the turret ring shot of T-80BVM which is still not 450mm of the Leopard weakspot shot:
“Clearly as armored as a Leopard 2A7.”
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You are the one who is keep cherry pick the weak spots on the BVM…
Or is the 430mm strongest point of BVM cheeks ?
What is the poor Ariete doing here ?
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