Seeing this many witch hunters is actually worrying for the community as a whole.
I’ve made my mind long before as I’ve seen enough crap happening to all vehicles.
I think you have a serious case of confirmation bias.
so you overanalyzed that clip becasue you cant accept that something like that happens to everyone and then fail to explain how 1000lb guided bomb exploding right ontop of him dosent do any damage
so if he hits the 1000lb bomb with his 20mm autocannon it still exploded right ontop of him
so please explain to me how an explosion of that size dosent even damage the external 20mm autocannon
you are making a clown out of yourself, that was a 1000lb bomb that exploded at most half a meter away from the tank without doing any damage
or are you telling me that 20mm of roof armor is enough to protect from a 1000lb bomb?
If yes you shouldnt complain about russian heavy and super heavy tanks surving bombs, becasue they have way thicker armor
but yes lets just throw out common sense and logical thinking and instead do mental gymnastics, so that you dont have to accept that it affects everyone equally
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I agree, nothing has changed. There is still no nation bias in War Thunder.
Not sure why people think there’d suddenly be nation bias when it never existed.
To this day 100% of evidence shown is evidence of no nation bias.
Heavy tanks surviving bombs has nothing to do with tech trees.
People hitting tracks or roof armor has nothing to do with tech trees.
Missile explosions not dealing correct damage has nothing to do with tech trees.
Merkava Mk4 LIC and IS-6 having double armor modeled by accident has nothing to do with tech trees.
T-44-100 missing its roof armor has nothing to do with tech trees.
So on and so forth.
Every single evidence is on something that is in 3 - 10 tech trees.
The fact that the bomb was reported to game log as destroyed could mean that since the destuction happened the aftermath of the explosion wont be calculated to damage model, but im not a gjn game mechanic to provide you such a complicated answer and i cant be blamed for this.
My multiple example cases are crystal clear comparing to the one of yours since the bombs are not reported as destroyed by game log and they are calculated to the damage model since the caused damage (but not fatal as they should) .
I would like to see how on earth you measured the distance of the explosion to half a meter by a such distant and bad angled video (lol!!) …but despite that we dont know if the explosion is calculated to damage model after the bomb is destucted as i said before .
Since when T-54 became a heavy or super heavy tank ? and where is any data that a russian or any nation heavy or super heavy tank can survive a direct or almost direct of 1000 or 2000 lbs bomb hit ?
I dont think that i am the one here that is doing mental gymanstics while you are trying to present an example of a destucted bomb equal to mine clear examples…pls show that common sense and logical thinking you are mention…
Besides that even of we assume that your example is correct i dont disagree that such incidents might happening with other nations too , the critical point is the frequency that you face this kind of abnormal incidents by nation and with russian tanks are by far the most common to deal and thats a reason why people say about russian bias.
And what in your opinion should be a bias evidence ?
A singular tech tree having something that others don’t.
P51H5NA being the only under-BR’d vehicle would be an example, but it’s not as it shares that title with F-15Cs across 2 other tech trees, Jagdpanzer IV in Germany making a 4th, arguably J-11B and Su-27SM making 6, Rooivalk being a lower BR than Apaches and Vikhir slingers making 7 tech trees, arguably VCC-80/60 for 8…
Now, you and I may disagree with that list, we may agree. Our agreement with that list is irrelevant.
Bug reports not being actioned could be an example, but that happens across all 10 tech trees, and the volunteers are not the development team.
Mig-29’s thrust curve being chronically wrong since release is just a notable example.
Features exclusive to one tech tree could be an example, but not only is that not a thing, the BR of said vehicle would have to be lower than equivalents as well.
Every single example brought up has resulted in it existing across multiple tech trees.
The fact T-series tanks exist in Germany, USSR, China, Italy, Sweden, and Israel alone mean that any defenses of T-series tanks claiming they over-perform in-game is a claim against all those tech trees, not just USSR.
Oh BTW T-55AM is at 9.0 while the superior armed Type 59D1 is 8.3.
there is no reasonable explanation to why the damage would be calculated differently, only the cause of the damage would be different
how?
by a bit of guessing and knowing that the 20mm on the leo 2k always shoots koaxially to the main calibre gun so that 1000lb bomb was directly above the barrel and didnt even damage it it also didnt damage anything else
and if you now want to tell me that you cant damage yourself, that is wrong becasue you can with artilery
Only gjn game mechanics can really give the right answer if or how they calculate a destructed bomb on the air , we can only assume.
I can agree with some things you mention ( Bug reports not being actioned, BR issues) but there are also these unexplained abnormal incidents that like i said might happening with other nations too but not with such frequency like russian vehicles and thats a reason why people talk about russian bias.
Ofcourse , It would be absolutely stupid for some player to claim that only a Russian T-72 is overperforming and on the other hand if somehow that was true it would be absolutely stupid for the gjn to do such thing because this would be the ultimate bias proof.
There is no such thing as “frequency” in this context.
Player experience being the frequency disproves nation bias as players aren’t nations.
At the end of the day, nation bias never existed and still does not exist.
Russian bias is as mythical as American, French, or Italian bias.
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players providing a sample of abnormal incidents by nation they face is a good bias indication
you make me saying same things again and again…the vast majority on media and forums are full of videos and chats about russian bias not american nor french or italian as you say it must be a mass delusion or they see indeed something
we dont becasue there are clips of bombs destroying planes in the air after being hit by guns
@TROOPER7
Except there are zero examples of abnormal incidents.
Rounds bouncing off roof armor is not abnormal.
Rounds doing comical ricochets due to server frequency is not abnormal, even Battlefield deals with that as all multiplayer games do.
Everything has an explanation, and plugging your ears because of biases when in reality this is a piece of software that has the same flaws all simulations do will not change said reality.
Also your post’s weird gaslighting of everyone at the end of is wildly anti-player.
Ignorance is not [insert word of gaslighting here] and never will be. Ignorance is our default state until we learn.
Tbf tho, there is a bit a favoritism. Like how for 2 years ussr had the best spaa. 2 years!
The Bi thats basically an 8.7 jet at 6.0 with ungodly fuel efficiency.
T80B’s with thermals even though they only ever used it on 1 prototype. (4 less then the DU hull of the abrams)
Also the kh38 that may or may not be real but is still by far the best atg missile for long range. (It easily gets introduced while nato counterparts need to be nerfed or need more information to get added.)
But yea, there is no bias that directly relates to ussr. Just laziness and broken coding bias.
USSR had useless SPAA since 2022 and still does.
The only way USSR is protected from the skies is if USA, Germany, or Israel is on its team.
And yes, the BI’s lack of fuel is why it’s 6.7.
T-80B uses drop-in observation thermals and the thermals are why it’s 10.7 instead of 10.0 with AMX-40 and Leopard 2K, or at most 10.3.
Kh-38 and Hammer are equally wrong.
You once again provide zero examples.
Hammer and Kh-38 seekers allegedly work only in LOAL mode against pre-programmed targets.
Since that’s not a feature in-game and can’t be at this time, it makes sense why both are using AGM-65 seekers.
When they do get them though, you’ll likely have to choose a target from a drop-down prior to spawning, which would limit their capability.
[Rare tanks would also be immune from most players if Gaijin lets them function against tanks…]
That’s only in one br? ground battles doesn’t revolve around 12.0 though, what about 8.0-9.0 when ru spaa’s are absolute dogwater compare to what the usa and china are getting? lol
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So there really was a guy working there connected to the Russian government. And another guy, who tunes equipment in the game — like the Pantsir — was very well known on a Russian forum for his bias toward Russian tech. Literally a fan. And then you burst in and tell everyone how it really is.
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Lol, at 9.3 the Russians get a missile-and-gun SPAA. I can understand a lot of things, but complaining about Russian SPAA in this game — that’s just too much.
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