Honestly, I personally think the term “Russian Bias” just means how bad the player is that is saying it.
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It still has armor on the front and tanks should be easy to disable by side shots. Of course, it’s little less busted than before, but it’s still the best tank in the game.
I don’t see USA having 7 12.0 MBTs?
They still have armor but right now they might be on par with Russian tanks (T80VM,T90M) or worse, a shot through the lower front plate would disable the whole tank, before it would take the driver and the engine now it would take 2 crew + horizontal + engine so literally a dead tank.
Yes, it’s now little less obnoxious.
Still the best thing out there.
certainly better than Ariete
but its now the same rank as Leclerc, Chally since you get one shot alot more than before
before when you shoot center of the lfp you usually die if unlucky or if the round doesnt have enough energy you would still alive with 2 crew and fully functional tank except engine
Now? same shot, center mass, dead, spall and die
no chance, nothing
I didn’t say 12.0, cause if I do that excludes the OP 11.7s, I said top lineup.
Granted, I forgot to say 5 for USSR.
And I forgot to add the 2PL for Germany.
… and this is how I know you have no clue what you’re talking about.
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I don’t but i just don’t consider gun depression as gun handling categories
Gun depression is the limit how low the gun can depress
Gun handling is how responsive the gun to control against the threat
but that depend on people
still is
get challenger 2 VS T-80BVM it CQC map (which is well known to be general map for top tier nowaday) guess who have higher chance of winning?
one need to aim weak spot
other can point anywhere at the hull.
or
Ariete/Merkava vs T-80BVM
again, one need to aim for weak spot
now it worse because now other can aim anywhere on their tank.
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First one that shoots wins, aim anywhere on the hull of either, or the turret of T-80BVM.
No weakspots necessary cause T-80BVM’s limited armor only works at medium ranges, at short and long range, the limited turret armor is its biggest weakness.
Comparing uparmored Leopards to Challengers is delusional.
im comparing abrams to those not uparmored leos
Enlighten us Sherlock.
Hypothetically, would you rather wear a vest that MIGHT protect you if you get stabbed, or not get stabbed in the first place?
Not being seen is by far more important than armor, and that is achieved via flanking and mobility, something neither T-80BVM nor T-90M have.
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Kopyo-25 should get TWS+ when I think about it, afaik it’s based on the Zhuk radar
I often shoot under the turret but hit the top plate or hit the ring and don’t penetrate.
Unless said boolet vest automatically deflect all projectiles coming at me from all angle , it is not worth talking about. MBTs are heavy tank now it seem like, armor is all and nothing else matter
Let’s be real, more often than not most enemy tanks you encounter won’t be in that angle
It’s mostly:
Just pop them through idler wheel and you bypass all that armor, heck I’ve been killed by those stupid apfsds autocannon from 9040c in this angle
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M1s are pretty on par with those though.