Agm require you to manuver more than kh, kh just fly straight launch and return, no spaa can intercept you
agm to be effective need to get to close range where spaa can intercept and within 20km u can already intercept it using pantsir
closer range mean higher chance to kill but also higher chance to die
Pantsir-S1 can (in the paper) intercept anything, it’s one of the purposes of the system, regarding planes, it can easily intercept if the operator have only two working braincells, one to spawn and the other just to throttle up.
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see planes
see them launch
check range
ah yes under 20km
send 7 missiles to your location
gbu-39 effectiveness are equivalent to nullity at range because they are slow
And they look the same to a Pantsir radar system on top of the glide bombs being launched far sooner than the AGM.
They will run out of anti-air missiles before intercepting the glide bombs, and even if they could the F-15E is already on the runway rearming after scoring ~6 frags.
AGM-65 has never required me to maneuver.
Partially because I retired Harrier GR7 when Pantsir was buffed from 13 to 16km range around October 2024, partially because I gained more weapons on faster platforms.
I basically had to do that a day after the last major update, the damage with the missiles were so messed up that I had to launch three 95Ya6 into a helicopter while getting hit by two Spike LR-II and surviving.
funny how you say it because launching gbu-39 early wont help save ur agm because the panstir would just already move and still intercept the agm
and there wouldnt be 1 pantsir
atleast its better than the rapier dmg lmao
solid shot missile
Thanks for proving why it’s effective, it disables all the SPAA for over a minute.
And it only takes a minute for the AGM-65s to make contact.
Your perspectives and opinions are valid.
Your posts’ defending Pantsir are why my posts are necessary.
CAS is OP, we need Python 5 SPYDER equivalent SPAA in War Thunder, and with posts like yours Gaijin may think SPYDER is too powerful when in reality SPYDER with Python 5 still might not be enough, but it needs to be tried because it will at least force top players to bring laser guided munitions instead of IR guided.
Obviously, and the Pantsir-S1 is more reliable than the ugly Canadian creature. I still want to know why keeping the tracker hanging in top of the radar, that’s why the battle rating difference, but one thing I’ve seen both share is the missile behaviour (speed and maneuverability).
bro what, gaslighting level 100 is absolutely insane
CAS is OP yes, its always has been, but which CAS is more OP than other? kh-38mt would be better than Agm-65b or brimstone
one minute for agm-65b, one minute require 20 gbu-39 and 6 agm-65b to keep pantsir busy
guess how much it is for the kh-38mt alone
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just mute him, makes forums so much better
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nah its interesting seeing him trying to fellating me
i had already enclosed and secure any crevices that might lead him to me but the return of his kind shall be inevitable
@MrBombastic8
F-15E, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Su-30SM [literally the same suspended weapons load as Mirage 2000D RMV], and Su-34 are the OP CAS.
And Su-34 becomes null and void the moment SPYDER is added as it doesn’t have a thermal channel.
F-15E becomes almost as dead as Su-34 because F-15E relies on IR guided weapons, but it can still use the glide bomb trick against SPYDER as well.
So that leaves Mirage 2000D RMV, Rafale, and Su-30SM as the last bastions of “OP CAS” when SPYDER is added, and that’s if they switch to laser missiles instead of IR.
And no, it’s 15 - 30 seconds to launch the 20 GBU-39s AND AGM-65s depending on your skill and MBT placement.
Also go learn what gaslighting actually is: It is not making you feel equal to me, it is not treating your opinions with respect and validation, and most certainly it is not when people take responsibility for their mistakes and actions.
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Me to you: Your opinions are valid, which is why I respect them.
You’re equal to myself and others no matter what anyone says.
I make countless typing mistakes, but that’s not relevant to this matter.
And most importantly you as a man are important, your perspectives are formed from knowledge and experience and are equally valid to my own.
Me having a different knowledge set does not invalidate your own conclusions based on the knowledge and experience you used to get there.
Also the fact that your post says “the return of sincere and honest NATO fans shall be inevitable” is outright disgusting.
No surprise that Alpharius mutes all NATO fans, there’s a reason they’re without a squadron.
@Cythraul98
How is saying CAS is OP contrarian to CAS is OP?
I’ll keep agreeing with the experts in the community regardless of your attacks on good takes.
Also the reason for the economy being reverted was because the Chinese, Russian, and English community blasted the forums for 3 days straight.
They reverted the economy changes hours prior to the beginning of the review bombing.
Finally someone who gets the whole picture between panstir and r77-1/r77 combined. The aim120 cannot utilize the range advantage if it does not have the altitude to do so
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In ground combat, the AIM-120 is practically useless. Since I don’t have time to scan the sky and gain altitude, I’m either taken out by a Pantsir or a Su-30.
Still waiting on my f15e destroying Pansir clip I asked for dang it. But it didn’t look like he used it very much in GRB .
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How is flying at 8000 meters in ground RB to be safe from SPAA not utilize its full range?
And I see @ARK_BOI is gaslighting by statshaming because I touch grass and play all 10 tech trees and all game modes.
I’ve called zero people on the forum Russian mains.
I and most of the WT community experts are in agreement on most things. From CAS being OP [including Su-34 and Su-30] to decompression being necessary in a number of areas.
I am not a content creator, nor do I want to become one.
It’s funny how you bail on wanting to 1v1 F-15E or Su-34 cause you know CAS is OP.
It’s funny how so many people get upset because I call their precious Su-30 OP to the point they mute me.
I can only imagine how many people they have muted for calling the Su-30 OP.
I never bailed on you and simply told you I dont have either vehicle. I never bailed on you as you claim so miss me with that nonsense. And again, I’m still waiting for that clip
Then you’ll be waiting forever. I never claimed to be a content creator and I stated specifically that I am not a content creator.
If you want screenshots of Su-34, Rafale, F-15E, etc getting massive frag streaks I’ve posted those screenshots previously and can again.
I however will not be falsely accused of things I am not when I agree with EVERY SINGLE WT expert on this matter. I am in lock-step with them that CAS is OP.
And I will not allow people to push a narrative that CAS being OP is a niche bad take warranting of being ignored.
I apologize if my posts sound harsh to you, that isn’t my intention. You deserve kindness as everyone does.
I’ve amended my previous post to omit you.
Edit:
This is my maximum preset in USA right now and it’s not changing until both the 120S is acquired AND every vehicle is spaded. I also don’t spawn CAS because I don’t like wasting spawn points, that F-111F is almost never used.
I’m playing mostly Germany and Britain top BR ground, though I take breaks with Britain and play 9.3 to put research into Desert Warrior.
I also play air RB for new jets such as F-18A, as well as grinding China ground alongside Israel ground.
All while playing the game less than 3 hours a day.
So I’d appreciate kindness and I’ll do my best to stay kind to everyone.