And what’s that?
Fire aNd Forget weapons
F N F
I’m saying the Kh38 is the same thing as any other guided air to ground weapon, being hit by a Kh38 is in no way different to being hit by a maverick. both out range current SPAAs. I just used my Japanese line up as an example, 6km max range… it doesn’t mater if I’m being shot at from 10, 20 or 40…or 1000 km.
Whats the practical difference between your Roland hit by a Kh38 from 30km at 12.0 and a Strela being bombed by a A-4-E TRAM from 16km at 10.3?
AGM 65 are also very strong but they are slower than a KH-38, from the time a Su-34 has released KH-38s. You have seconds before it hits what it is aiming at.
Being faster makes them harder to intercept and gives them a higher kill potential.
They also have a bigger warhead meaning front armour shots do not save you from a KH-38 whereas an AGM-65 will not always kill if it hits the front of a tank.
And then Su-34 has a 3000kg glide bomb too.
AGM-65 and KH-29 were pretty equally balanced…KH-38 is on a whole new level
And that effects the average tanker that has one dropping on his head how?
You blow up and its some how better if the weapon was flying for 2 min instead of 1.5?
Probably in the past but for the past year or two, that is not the case.
First lets talk about the Vikhrs capabilities in comparison to Hellfires
Helicopter's max BR needs to be increased - #10 by HondaCivici
Helicopter's max BR needs to be increased - #11 by rainy2000
I recommend people take a look at these posts as they address common myths or half truths when talking about vikhrs vs hellfires. If you don’t agree, tell me where the point of disagreement lies and we can have a discussion about it.
You could argue that the Ka50 isn’t good anymore and I could see your point. Gimble limitation along with no thermals limits your gameplay but because how powerful the vikhrs are, it’s the same BR as the YAH-64.
With the Ka52 it gets rid of those limitations and improves it’s multi-role capabilities by a lot.
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Because it gives you more time to react…smoke up or try and move to cover.
KH-38 gives you no time
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you see you could react to a kh-38 alot easier if it takes 5 minutes to get to you,
you just have to fullfill a few requierments for that:
- see the launch platform
- see it launching kh-38s
- realize it was fired at you
- smoke it
- drive away
same scenario with the agm-65:
- see the launch platform
- see it launching agms
you cant because they are smokeless, you die - realize it was fired at you
you cant because they are smokeless, you die - smoke it
- drive away
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how does that help against the smokeless agms,
you cant really see being launched at you
No real objections. There’s a reason top Apaches and Ka-52 are 12.0 and now lower.
It’s arguable that if F&F missiles are ever “buffed” that they can go up to 12.3+.
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You can still see the missile if you see an F-15E or F-16 it is likely launched AGM-65.
AGM-65 are also completely defeated by smoke as the warhead is smaller and splash damage is lower so even if the IOG causes the missile to impact near you in the smoke it wont kill you.
KH-38 is bigger, faster and meaner and if it impacts near your tank it will either kill you or destroy every module and leave you with a 45 second time repair.
do they though? im pretty sure isreal has mavs around 9.3
That’s the thing, it’s not
map: dessert
kh-38
Platform - Su30: 3km altitude, going around 970km/h
Target: 20km
Time it takes to impact: 40s
agm-65d
Platform - F-15E: 3km altitude, going around 1200km/h
Target: 19.8km
Time it takes to impact: NA, the maverick does not reach the target, falls out of sky
Platform - F-15E: 7km altitude, going around mach 1.39
Target: 19.6km
Time it takes to impact: 58s
People really downplay the speed of the Kh-38 and the effects it has on the battlefield
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Obvious ragebait, I’m starting to see why so many people have you blocked
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Should’ve clarified, I’m saying that the Ka-52 is a much better helicopter than the Apache for GRB. Either the Ka52 gets moved up in br (maybe not the same br as FnF helis) or the Apache gets lowered in BR.
Having them at the same BR is just unfair.
Ground Assault is a different story. I would choose the apache over the ka52
i forgot about Isreal …
FNF weapons at 9.7 is crazy
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AGM-65s would be much better if gaijin didn’t gimp their speed for what ever reason. Its been bug reported AGM-65 Maverick likely incorrect flight performance // Gaijin.net // Issues but never implemented and probably will never be cause gaijin just ignores most bug reports. I feel bad for people who put in a lot of time for bug reports for 90% of them to get ignored for years.
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ignores bug reports that are seen as buffs.
for example, there were two notable bug reports made at the same time for the adats.
- explosive mass incorrect: 7kg → 6kg
- IRST range incorrect: 10km → 13km
guess what happened in a couple of days? They only fixed the explosive mass 💀
ADATS should have TWS like Pantsir it was designed to track threats while locking a target.
It can still only guide one missile but it would allow ADATS greater situational awareness.
thats a good idea