Russian Bias in 2025?

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To be fair i agree with this. yet i never saw some kind of bias towards another country on ANY game.
it always seems like everyone is balanced and everyone is the same.
GHPC, Project Reality, Arma, Battlefields, Warno?, etc

idk. there are a lot of games from other nations and you still wont hear people complaining about BIAS towards the devs country, war thunder was the first videogame from which i heard the term BIAS and it was from its own playerbase complaining to the devs and with reasons.

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Originally wasn’t the plan

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yeah i remember that time, i saw a lot of people complaining about it on reddit + forum

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Here is the standard height. As you can see, except for the Abrams cheeks, everything is visible and this is a 100% one-shot. And your tricks with disabling the vertical are not enough here.

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How do you like this?

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Russia got this. A plate as thick as a thumb can withstand 200mm of kinetic damage. It’s some kind of magic.
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Inn arma 4 bohemia knows the abrams can withstand 3bm 42, and the engagements go way differently

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Yes that change was really dumb. I hate it.

Also a really dumb change.

The 2A7’s are average but the Strv 122’s are pretty fast forwards due to them having a 2A5 transmission and lighter composite.

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How is that possible? Disable consider vertical camera angle and drop the range to point blank…

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It heavily depends on the map. In a CQC map, Russian mbts are at it’s strongest because it’s a much more forgiving tank to play. Spall liners, ERA and even the autoloader sometimes eats rounds. I find lower glacis, drivers hatch, direct middle upper side (where turret meets hull) to be the most reliable one shot kill.

CQC is all about whoever gets their shot in first. The reload only comes in handy when there’s multiple enemies, or if the shot didn’t connect. Mobility is dependent as there’s always choke points or the typical areas where people fight over and usually there are faster teammates meaning that the Abrams won’t always be getting to an advantageous position before your team does. The reverse speed matters a lot in terms retreating.

The Abrams absolutely excels in large maps and outclasses almost any tank because this is where the Abram’s features stand out. The combination of reload, depression, and surprisingly good turret armor makes it deadly once it’s in a hull down position.

The issue is there’s not enough of these large maps or the frequency of getting them is low. Even then, most of these large maps have areas where Russian mbts can be in a hull down position which makes them good but not as much as the Abrams.

If there were equal amounts of large maps as cqc ones, I would be content with where the Abrams is (assuming the bug reports made get fixed)

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Of course if you’re sub 200m to the T-90M its strongest there, but you have to remember it still can’t reverse and has the slowest reload at top tier.
The reverse means you cannot retreat, something critical in urban environments.
The reload means you are horrible at dealing with multiple enemies and are food the second 2 people show up.

I would still take the Abrams CQC, but otherwise your points are well made.

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On large maps it is very difficult to fight Soviet tanks, because of their armor, from a long distance you shoot either at the center or at the turret, and these parts are very protected, but it is difficult for the Abrams, because in 90% of cases you will be one-shot, since the center is absolutely vulnerable.

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Its almost like Relikt was designed to defeat kinetic rounds…

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Your camera angle literally affects protection map because you have consider camera angle on. Turn it off

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I dont care about Air RB or SIM. Ground RB is where the Russian Bias really shows itself and very obviously at that

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Its almost like the US uses a Tungsten DU hybrid to defeat it like a hot knife through butter 🧈 lol

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Wait until you get to Top tier you’ll see the legit Russian bias 😂

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Pantsir S1 alone by itself is the most disgusting example of imbalance and lazy game design.

KH 38’s being leagues ahead of most competition is completely unacceptable.

Ka 50 with it’s x12 10km missiles fighting 8km range SPAA in 10.7 lineups is disgusting. (also the helicopter module nerf that seemed to be directed towards the Ka 50 doing nothing to it’s damage model while nerfing every pre-9.3 helicopter into the absolute ground was terrible game design)

2S38 being much better than the PUMA but worse than the HSTVL while being the same BR as the PUMA is disgusting.

T80UD and upgraded T72’s being 10.3 while all their competition is 10.7 is disgusting. The decompression for 9.3 didn’t help a thing because now Russia 10.3 just stomps 9.3 every match.

T55 AMD and AM1 being 8.7 with literal active protection system, composite armor, lrf, dart, stabilizer, and speed (the full mbt package) while still fighting T32E1 in a full downtier is disgusting. Those tank should be no less than 9.0.

USSR having 9.3 equivalent to the Gepard 1A2 is disgusting and having 3 variants of the shilka as well as one Yenisei within 7.3-9.3 while USA just finally got an spaa at 8.3 filling a previous gap from 7.7 (7.3 now) to 9.3 and before that a gap from 4.0 to 7.7 is disgusting.

BTR 14.5 mm round being more likely to rip a plane in two than a 20mm round is ridiculous.

IS 6 and IS 4 being a tank almost unkillable by tanks uptiered to fight it is disgusting. USA heavies and German heavies all have some sort of weakspot even when they are in an uptier.

I don’t think Gaijin has a “plan” to make Russian vehicles superior to everything else in the game but I think they are just the worst game developers I have ever had the displeasure of playing a game from. In their desire to downplay Russian vehicle and technology shortcomings, they give them ridiculously favorable BR’s and likely unrealistic performance.

I don’t believe in “Russian bias” as the conspiracy theory but I do believe Russia is the most babied and catered tech tree in the game. They are the most complete at almost every BR lacking almost nothing in terms of CAS, tanks, or spaa. I have reached 7.7 UK, top tier USA, top tier Germany, and 5.7 USSR. There isn’t a single BR where the most difficult nation to fight (other than maybe 6.7 Germany) isn’t going to be Russia. When I play 6.7 USA I would love to play my USA heavies but always include the M50 and M36B2 just for the heat rounds to pen Russian heavies.

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Yeah about that hull down scenario. Hate to break it to you so I figured i would just show you so there is no rebuttal. The tale of two sides where one is given the tools to overpressure and the other is not.

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