Nice gameplay if Pantsir kill on air respawn immediately after appears on several maps.
No bias of course, any AA can shoot on 20km distance.
But wait… Not any? Sure?
If you are dying to pantsir at 15km, which is the airspawn, its because you decided that the best course of action in a 12.0 match was to fly in a straight line towards the battlefield for more than 10 seconds as soon as you spawned in.
Same thing happens to russian CAS that do that, the difference of course being they get to sling their kh38s before dying in the same way. And no one with half a brain is seriously going to argue those are balanced, even talking about their real capabilities or if they exist at all is pointless because if they are the discussion immediately shifts to balance, and they aren’t.
Either way if you die to any spaa at any BR its because you choose to be dumb or greedy. I was playing my su7 earlier, knew there was a gepard, got bored of lawnmowing waiting for my team to scout something and then tried to challenge him in his spawn coming in low, I lost. Is the gepard OP? or did I do something that was probably not smart?
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Thanks for the answer and the assessment of the actions without details
And if less than 10? 5? If not in a straight line?
Any player on Pantsir can change lock as soon as you appear at the air respawn and rocket is in the air. And this time is reduced from 10 seconds to several. The max distance allows you to do this.
at max distance the (Pantsir) missle lose almost all of its energy and every sudden manuver from the targeted airplane will result in a miss (for the Pantsir). As @Sternlos and many others put it, if you decide to fly in a staight line towards the enemy SPAA, even a Roland-1 system will shoot you down.
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When i play top tier Russia and Germany are 1000% always same team
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Man… I m playing top tier only and i like to play planes and i cant count how many times i got shot down within 10s of spawn by s1. Many times i had a situation where i instantly get shot (i see missile cuz i instantly go to tpod view and quick look for aa) right after i spawn in and some of them result in me being shot down even when turning hard.
Example:
2 days ago i had a match where i tried to stop this very balanced cas spam. I spawned in f18 and instantly gets a rwr launch warning from s1. I turned 13Gs and got shot down.
The times i get shot down by second best aa (VT1 aa) is CLOSE TO NONE
What’d you expect? The missile is fast, the radar is good, and you went straight. First rule of CAS: dip down to the ground or you’ll get instantly killed by a Pantsir-S1.
Jokes aside, the spawn really should be a bit further out, within radar range but not within engagement range.
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Man… I did not xD. I went straight for like ~5s and then turn instantly. But cmon. Even 5s? Thats absurd
That’s it. 5 seconds, I always do the same as you, set the target point in the map and everything but I never get the chance to.
Anyway… When theres no s1 i can normally fly for like half a minute without getting shot down or even shot to begin with
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i see they get destoryed by CAS very easily though…
Ok. The Pantsir fire the 95Ya6 missile. The missile have a max speed of 1 300 m/s, so in 5 seconds, it’s travaled around 6500 m. You spawn at what… 15km (from the middle of the map)… so even if the Pantsir was at your end of the map, you still had to fly with around 4680 km/h in order for his missile to connect with your plane, just 5 second after you spawned. And all of this is if we assume that the Pantsir locked you and fired just as you spawned, without any delay.
Long-story-short…
B.S. it was a LOT more then 5 seconds… 4-5 times more…
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Sry my bad. 5s i meant getting targeted and getting shot (not getting shot down). My point is that s1 players feel immensly confident that they can shoot that far and they surely can
My vote for more hand-painted and hand copied military brochures. Back to the arts. Less power to ai and computer apps in designing and showcasing modern mil tech. I want to see official hand painted sketches of meteor missiles and mabe handpainted and coloured official f22 sketches getting leaked on the wt forum. /s would be funny af. There should still be monks around with enough time and skills to do those no?
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Only because people like you exist.
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If it traveled 6500m in the first 5 seconds, then it would take around 10-15 seconds for it to reach the 15km spawn point. Assuming whatever aircraft he had was moving forward, I’d say impact would probably occur at just over 10 seconds if you flew in a straight line. 5 seconds is definitely exaggerated.
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And now you somehow assume the missile is travelling at it’s max rated speed for the entirety of the flight time.
Makes sense.
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I used what he said, that is why I gave a range of time not a set time.
Lmao ofc. So better to now spawn at all right?