i dont see single vehicles at bias, every nation got a insane tank/plane or two.
BUT where i see the russian bias is how they got a lot of complete lineups, including a metric tons of AAs.
They even had a replacement ready when the Strella went up in BR and now they are getting yet another one.
Other nations lacks different stuff throughout the BRs, a swedish main is boned if he needs to get heavy kills, americans are boned when comes to AA in quite a lot of BRs (im not counting the two new, as they are low tier and the skink is frankly not that great anyways) and so on.
They have even given ASU’s scouting at the BR where russia have few light tanks.
All major nations will have amazing lineups at multiple BR ranges.
If Gaijin was so keen to keep USSR filled with AAs at all times, they wouldn’t introduce IR slingers like LAV-AD or Ozelot 12-18 months before Strela, practically leaving USSR to fight with 8.3 Shilka only.
In fact, USSR had a gaping hole between Shilka and 2S6 for like three and a half years, all the while multiple nations had vehicle(s) to fill that gap much better.
I almost forgot, M247 was added in 2018 and is still the best gun-based SPAA in the game, making it the only AA at that BR range that’s somewhat capable of engaging at longer distances, especially helicopters.
Same thing goes for Japan, Italy and Israel. Minor nations in general have less vehicles to play with, can’t really see where’s Russian bias in that ?
Scouting is given per-vehicle basis, not only light tanks will have this feature enabled.
US also have TDs in M50 and M56 that have scouting, while also being at the BR where US has few light tanks. Germany’s Wiesel 1A2 can also scout.
Guess what those mentioned vehicles have in common ? It’s certainly not the nation they’re playing for.
Yeah that’s my entire point, if they had a viable line up maybe they would spawn more than once or twice. Instead they spawn what they can (trash like Clickbait or Wolfpack) or what is the least appaling to play (HSTVL and F16), and that’s if they don’t get curbstomped by the protagonists of the game before getting enough SP.
Very difficult to understand for a RU player i know
So your entire point was that because Soviets and USA lack a viable lineup? I get that Click Bait and T-80UE lack options, but there are squadron vehicles for both USA and Soviets to make that a 2 tank lineup.
Interesting that you claim HSTVL is not appealing, 2S38 sales disagree with you.
@ExcaliburSniper
Your post responding to an American critic reads as… “Americans that criticize War Thunder are clearly employees. American critics would be banned if they weren’t employees.” - ExcaliburSniper.
Criticizing War Thunder isn’t trolling; that goes to you as well @SilviaKings
I have said this before and I will say it again. Because US main have to use something to justify their claim, an escape code when the vehicle doesn’t meet their expectation of being borderline broken or just straight up unkillable. They will use anything to avoid getting better and throw insult around until they get what they want. Say anything , do anything beside getting better and learn how to play the game. Warthunder is not the only game with this problem but with it having a lot of vehicle that was in service or still in service. The problem is even worse, with them pushing their own agenda left and right the moment the vehicle of choice didn’t meet their expectation
Click Bait is garbo then what will the OES ? The AlKhalid ? or even the T80U-E1 be ? If wolf pack is garbo then what will the 2S25M or any light at that br be ? It is not about what the US have at that line up , cause all little Timmy have is the single click bait , what else will he spawn in if he already dead after rushing to the most inconvenient spot then leave after he get 1 death cause le game bad and le vehicle bad
If you’re not a dev/cm/mod maybe you could write about the ‘services’ you perform for them to be protected from bans for trolling. If anything it would be the first sensical/true thing you write on here.
@ExcaliburSniper
I just don’t troll.
I’ve never trolled in my life and never will.
It’s theoretically a waste of time, and I’m sticking to that conclusion.
All I do is honesty for anything else would take too much effort away from learning things.
People having a different perspective than you is normal.
EVERYONE on the planet has perspectives different than you, I am not the only one; just as everyone on the planet has different perspectives than myself, you are not the only one.
So if i got it right, your point is that the vast majotity of videos on media which are about russian vehicles is due to players that dislike Russia or they are dissapointed by the performance of their preferable nation vehicles or just because they have skill issues? All these parameters should apply for someone to claim that there is usa or german bias too and thus there should be an equality of bias videos on media but this is not happening…
This is a can of worm that I suggest you should not open. Especially when we are strictly talking about game. For the sake of this thread , please don’t
Mostly this , cause barely any of them able to provide a point that be able to back up their claim , some are able to but then again, they are the minority that barely speak out their opinion on such thing
Refer to the first one and think about where was Gaijin founded. Yeah it is universal for the west to think bad of the East. This thread is a great example of that, you should look into this if you want. But basically , le stuff on one side is always better than the other, even in this game.
In the almost two years of playing Warthunder, I’ve not encountered nearly as much “russian bias” as bias towards Swedish vehicles. I encounter Swedish vehicles surviving things much more often than any other nation, even Russia.
First of all, this is a realistic game with real life combat vehicles and as such, plenty of people will bring IRL biases with them, especially with the ongoing conflicts around the world. So yeah, there’re definitely people that will dislike nations purely because of outside causes.
Second of all, your second and third point are kind of linked together. Someone performing badly in a given vehicle might consider this is because his vehicle is crap and the vehicle he struggles against is OP. It’s much easier to shift blame onto something else rather than on your skill issues.
I’ve seen numerous people over the years that claim USSR vehicles are brokenly OP, but they still somehow perform within their account average while using said brokenly OP vehicle. So can you tell me what made those people claim said vehicles are brokenly OP, because their personal experience surely didn’t ?
Have you tried consuming media that’s mainly for Russian speaking community ?
I think you might find interesting stuff there.
Yes i agree that politics and conflicts affect some players in such way BUT this works for other nations too not only against russia. According to this logic and by the fact that just russia and china have 1,6 billion potential WT players, we should not talk about ‘‘russian bias’’ but about ‘‘american bias’’ but this is not happening… so the question still remains unanswered for me, why russia has the majority of bias videos on media since many years and not due to recent facts?
It depends on what anyone think about what ‘‘russian bias’’ is.
For example if someone thinks that Russian bias is that a player wiil take a russian tank and do a parade starting from team spawn all the way to the enemy spawn killing all the enemy tanks and surviving all enemy shots he is wrong. (Despite that i have seen such battles with kv-220s or objects-279 squads before the BR upgrade…:)
A bad player will need much more things than only playing russian tanks to become a good player but a good player will surely perform better using russian tanks.
In addition, player statistics doesn’t always tell the truth because for example if a player has begun playing the game with russia and after a couple of years play another country like usa or germany it is pretty possible to perform better because he will be more experienced by all game aspects.
See my first response in this post
Youtube and other platforms are free for everyone to post such videos not only for western users
No , politic is where wiseman become mentally ill person. It is not simply “cause it work with this it will work with that”.
You answered your own question already , no need for wall of text. You will want to go deeper if you want to know why how and when russia this russia that USSR this USSR that. And please , no wall of text , cause i am not reading that
Bad player would still perform better in brokenly OP vehicles.
Fair point, but you could observe them play recent additions to USSR/US/GER tree and their stats are still the same between all those vehicles.
Just because it’s free doesn’t mean people will use it. Big countries might have their own version of popular western sites. Just take VK or WeChat as an example.
Unfortunately i dont speak russian or chinese to do so but war thunder developers use mostly youtube to show or advertise new major updates or vehicles, so i think its obvious for someone to use the same platform in order to achieve same attention about a game issue beside game forum.
what about tik tok which is not ‘western’ origin platform ? The majority of bias videos are about russian vehicles too.
I can’t even imagine that the main reason for a player starting to upload russian bias videos was a guerilla war somewhere on the planet …