What are the starts of the Marder 1A3, then? If it’s unbalanced, K/D, K/B and WR will show it.
I want the game to be balanced, ark_boi was on another post saying he wants russia to suffer xD how is that not just the reverse of what hes crying about.
Can you not goalpost? I don’t care about people saying X or Y suffers, I’m here to see how far your idiocy will get you.
The bradley also has far worse mobility than both
It has better top speeds than than the BMP-2, accleration idk.
has longer reload for the missiles
It’s 10s aced for all three of them. Here we go, we have entered the realm of you making “facts up”.
that is 16mm of penetration difference, for the purpose of both of these vehicles they will both shred the sides of tanks.
“Shred”
Lets touch on the fact the marder 1A sits at 7.7? with a 530 pen laser guided ATGM
What are you EVEN TALKING about? MILAN 1s are SACLOS guided.
the fact of the matter is these vehicles are low in BR to and read this slowly hold the hands of german players
Marder 1A1 and 1A3 USED TO BE AT A LOWER BR, they are now at a higher BR, and they still perform atrociously, even good players cannot make them work in any other role than pseudo-SPAA, THEY ARE NOT GOOD IFVs like the BMP-2.
the player peformance results in the vehicle becoming handheld
There is no logic in your argument.
A hand-held vehicle BY DEFINITION is going to be a good performer.
tank BR drops not to reflect tank capabilities but player ability with it.
According to?
player does badly with it because they cant just roll in and win.
IF a vehicle is hand-held, BUT the player cannot do well in it, then the vehicle isn’t hand-held. Holding the hand of THE PLAYER is not the same as holding the proverbial “hand” of the vehicle.
tank now sits in a bracket where it is a stomp fest - E-G tiger 1 seeing 4.3s for years
Tiger E has never seen 4.3s, and H1 only for a few months, but this again doesn’t prove that the vehicle was handheld, as for a vehicle to be hand-held, as I have already explained (and you ignored it), it has to be modelled better than its IRL counterpart in one or another way that playing against it makes it simply unfair, the BVM used to be hand-held 3 years back this way.
they are actively under Brd to hold the hands of the players that use them .
Ah, so we’ve changed the goalpost now? From the VEHICLES to the PLAYERS?
No youve just completely ignored or chose to ignore the points ive made without any actual counter arguement to it.
I’ve paid enough attention to your whining to see that your entire argument revolves around how under BR’d certain vehicles are due to how badly they are being used by the Wehraboos (and it’s not even that I disagree), but you’re pulling at straws with that, to push a narrative that it’s the VEHICLES that are being hand-held, and not the players.
The vehicles being handheld in the context of the game ALSO includes the BR that reflects what they engage actively.
It literally does not. Every single goddamn vehicle that has been actually hand-held in the past had only been so because of their modelling - BVM with its explosive charges, helicopters with their inability to die when killed (some more than others), Leopard 2s whose glacis wouldn’t spall, M1s that wouldn’t spall at all, just some examples off the top of my head. ANOTHER definition that we could use is a vehicle receiving “hand-outs” in the form of better equipment (usually projectiles) or receiving buffs, wanna know who actually gets those? Abrams.
lets not forget the leopard 2k that absolutely rofl stomped the entire roster as well for years.
In the same manner that M1 nad M1IP did, or the BVM, or the 2A5, or how the Type 90s are doing currently when it downtiers? 2Ks “rofl-stomping” ceased years ago.
You trying ot be obtuse to this just shows your flat out denial as a defense of german tanks etc.
Or maybe I am actually aware of what it means when VEHICLES are hand-held and not THE PLAYERS? Whereas you’re just pulling straws to make them seem interchangeable when they aren’t. Better yet, how you’ve CHANGED THE GOALPOST from high-tier T-series (i.e pretty much just 9.3 and UP to the whole German TT just so that you could look for ANY AND ALL examples of a vehicle that is actually hand-held (and you’ve still failed to name any of them).
What’s funnier is that most of the examples of VEHICLES being hand-held can only be described with a PAST TENSE, while I asked you to find me examples of them in the present time, i.e the ones that currently are being hand-held, you “found two”, both of which aren’t hand-held, and then figured out that there aren’t many if any that you can actually “call out”, so you decided to talk about a distant past, lmao.
So cmon, lets see you find me how Germany’s AFVs above 9.0 (this isn’t arbitratry, this is in accordance with how the thread is about T-series autoloaded tanks so just high tier), and are CURRENTLY being hand-held, not IF they were years past. Cus you’re so disconnected from the reality of this game, that you somehow think Marder is at the same level of performance as M3 and BMP-2, hillarious, or that somehow Leopard 1 has ever been 7.0 when the lowest its been at was 7.3
Best joke in all of this? Russia went thru the same, horrible players undertiering either fantastic or equally horrible vehicles, nobody called them “hand-held”, its only when Germany experiences that, that gremlins like you come out of their caves and cry bloody tears about imbalance, lol.
