Did i say im doing cas you plumb i stated specifically cap.
when doing cas you’d be ludicrous to ignore any threats.
I dont have the su34 nor do i want it as same with the typhoon i dont particularely agree with them in GRB rn .
However ive seen Ef2000s flying out of the range of most spaa just dropping ordenance.
The scariest one now is the Ef2000, the rafale i think then the F16.
The fact of the matter is, all nations need a capable spaa on that front to catch up with the pantsir, pantsir while better than the rest isnt some insanely OP platform against the F16C, F15E/I, Rafales, gripens (though thyere not the best cas)
and other such potent cas/cap platforms.
Gen 4.5 jets was just not a good idea with teh current gameplay loop.
Dunno why im bothering to even write a response that isnt just, nuh uh. im wasting a lot of time, and attention in game ! due to this stupid debate on a forum
You stay close to cover to hide in case you get MAW warning.
You get out and fire your FnF, nothing else is needed after that, you simply cannot get hit.
YT has plenty of Tornado (not even EFT) clips using Brimstones doing the same thing with and without AA present.
Too bad other CAS like EFT or Rafale aren’t just flying bricks and don’t pose as a free kill.
Oh you say i should stop reply to you but seem you really wanna talk hah?
it not me who starting with ignoring threat fact
I’m not that stupid to ignore that
technically anyone? some better some worse
I don’t want you to tell me the thing i already knew
I wanna see you do it and by it mean ignoring SPAA while doing it seem you have a talent because i never ignore them it those and i don’t think i can ignore them too.
Never seem them outright ignore it most of them take defensive maneuvers after they know pantsir present even hunter he doesn’t ignore it.
Me doing what you already know and what’s mutually accepted ?
AA won’t mess with your missile’s guidance, as logically, you don’t even guide them yourself lol.
Defensive maneuver = fly low while waiting to pop up last second to guide your Brimstone.
Same thing you would do if AA wasn’t up as a precaution for ARHs.
people can say anything they wanted
talk is easy but can you do it like you said?
like when i say SU-34 is easy mode but you protest to the death and put excuse of it flying brick bla bla bla because you know how it is
but you say bla bla bla is UFO because you see how it performs but never fly it them yourself and i disagree with you because i do have them
maybe we not so different after all hah?
you say this thing OP I disagree with you
I say this thing OP you disagree with me
oh, sound easy but can you, do it? it must be easy as you say right?
You can easily spot them and even if you cant, you can launch unguided missiles towards the incoming missile and you can intercept it pretty easily.
Every SPAA gotta lock onto you and then launch, you have enough time to spot the SPAA and intercept using Vikhrs, that’s a big advantage Russians have with guiding their missiles against various targets while having the best CAS and the best SPAA, and somehow it’s not enough muh we need FnF. Try playing with Hellfires that takes ages to reach the target and everytime the enemy’s SPAA is Pantsir so you’re 100% dead.
you use SU-34 ARB and say the suck? lol
bro that just like playing Tornado GR4 and wonder why they suck
You play the mode that enemy you facing are all Fighter
that plane jobs are to kill tanks R-73 and R-77 are for self-defense you not gonna go toe to toe with fighter and win
what do you expect? dog fight Gripen and wins?
As I said, you need to spot the missile, turn your helicopter towards it and fire your rockets. All that in just a few seconds.
Doing all of this also prevents you from targeting any ground vehicles.
Thanks for proving my point for me.
You don’t need to have your radar on nor you have to lock a helicopter to fire your missile. What are you talking about ?
Good luck intercepting a missile that isn’t flying straight towards you with Vikhrs.
Buddy as i said you’ve already spotted the SPAA and you’ve already turned your helicopter to the target, also every SAM that’s 95% against you is ADATS and other SAMs that cannot even launch at you, no SPAA is the Pantsir’s level when it comes to intercepting and launching super fast missiles.
If the target is hiding and you cannot spot them you absolutely need to have your radar on.
You still have the best CAS that can eliminate every SPAA in the matter of seconds and take control of the battlefield pretty easy.
I mean Tornado GR4 has it worse at very least SU-34 it can fightback
What Tornado GR4 can do it the same situation?
Run way (which never work most case)
And why i compare Tornado and SU-34 because it pretty much same type of aircraft
VT-1s are literally 50m/s slower than a missile from the Pantsir lol.
ADATS also has much faster missiles than Vikhrs.
Re-read what I said, you don’t need to have radar on to fire your missile.
Great goalpost moving.
You still have best CAP that can eliminate every RU CAS in the matter of seconds and take control of the battlefield pretty easy.