So correct me if im wrong leopard 1 was 7.0 back when it was introduced? Wasnt the m48A1 C 7.3?
Me doing what you already know and what’s mutually accepted ?
AA won’t mess with your missile’s guidance, as logically, you don’t even guide them yourself lol.
Defensive maneuver = fly low while waiting to pop up last second to guide your Brimstone.
Same thing you would do if AA wasn’t up as a precaution for ARHs.
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people can say anything they wanted
talk is easy but can you do it like you said?
like when i say SU-34 is easy mode but you protest to the death and put excuse of it flying brick bla bla bla because you know how it is
but you say bla bla bla is UFO because you see how it performs but never fly it them yourself and i disagree with you because i do have them
maybe we not so different after all hah?
you say this thing OP I disagree with you
I say this thing OP you disagree with me
oh, sound easy but can you, do it? it must be easy as you say right?
You can easily spot them and even if you cant, you can launch unguided missiles towards the incoming missile and you can intercept it pretty easily.
Every SPAA gotta lock onto you and then launch, you have enough time to spot the SPAA and intercept using Vikhrs, that’s a big advantage Russians have with guiding their missiles against various targets while having the best CAS and the best SPAA, and somehow it’s not enough muh we need FnF. Try playing with Hellfires that takes ages to reach the target and everytime the enemy’s SPAA is Pantsir so you’re 100% dead.
You literally agreed with me buddy.
You know I played ARB, right ?
It’s pretty evident who has a massive upper hand in that duel.
Yes, flying low to the ground is not that hard.
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you use SU-34 ARB and say the suck? lol
bro that just like playing Tornado GR4 and wonder why they suck
You play the mode that enemy you facing are all Fighter
that plane jobs are to kill tanks R-73 and R-77 are for self-defense you not gonna go toe to toe with fighter and win
what do you expect? dog fight Gripen and wins?
As I said, you need to spot the missile, turn your helicopter towards it and fire your rockets. All that in just a few seconds.
Doing all of this also prevents you from targeting any ground vehicles.
Thanks for proving my point for me.
You don’t need to have your radar on nor you have to lock a helicopter to fire your missile. What are you talking about ?
Good luck intercepting a missile that isn’t flying straight towards you with Vikhrs.
A2A combat is allowed in GRB as well, your point ?
So you’re a free kill to them, got it.
What do you expect, dedicated CAS brick to be on-par for A2G as fighters ?
Buddy as i said you’ve already spotted the SPAA and you’ve already turned your helicopter to the target, also every SAM that’s 95% against you is ADATS and other SAMs that cannot even launch at you, no SPAA is the Pantsir’s level when it comes to intercepting and launching super fast missiles.
If the target is hiding and you cannot spot them you absolutely need to have your radar on.
You still have the best CAS that can eliminate every SPAA in the matter of seconds and take control of the battlefield pretty easy.
I mean Tornado GR4 has it worse at very least SU-34 it can fightback
What Tornado GR4 can do it the same situation?
Run way (which never work most case)
And why i compare Tornado and SU-34 because it pretty much same type of aircraft
For a bit yes.
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VT-1s are literally 50m/s slower than a missile from the Pantsir lol.
ADATS also has much faster missiles than Vikhrs.
Re-read what I said, you don’t need to have radar on to fire your missile.
Great goalpost moving.
You still have best CAP that can eliminate every RU CAS in the matter of seconds and take control of the battlefield pretty easy.
Just making sure man thanks!
I joined when it was 7.3 but i knew it was lower for a period
Why are you obsessing over Tornados when you have EFT ?
Then drop it down in BR ?
It’s already at 12.3.
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Su34 is miles better than a GR4 mate. the GR4 is a flying bus, the Su34 is a flying airbreak thats massive.
The su34 compared to an EF2000 is a brick, but the GR4 compared to the su34 is also a brick.
Never said it wasn’t.
EFT can do everything Tornado can, so talking about latter is pointless.
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Same reason why RU keep SU-27sm and MiG-29SMT when they have SU-34
Or
German keep Tornado ASSTA when EFT exist
Or why US keep their F-16C when they have F-15E
you might need them as back up cut the SP cost
It not pointless
27SM does CAP much better than Su-34.
Tornado does nothing better than EFT.
It clearly is as EFT is a massive upgrade over Tornado.
Either EFT has to be above 12.7 or Tornado should be below 12.3, that single BR step definitely isn’t enough.
Yep this is what i was talking about. Ammo just turning red/yellow (lmao) . And not just Soviet tank btw.
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This thread achieved degenerative brain rot status quite a while ago, expect moments like this. I’ve been trying to read through it but so many completely idiotic statements have been made I can’t say something about them all.
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