Russian Autoloader buff is ridiculous

i just played with Russians, and like i used only BMPT-72 and 2S38 (yes, i also used Object 292 but instantly died xD)
like, it was 11.7, and like, you can see how many hits i survived and how much enemy were trying to kill me in BMPT-72, and with it, i killed 5 enemy, 2 of them when i was under heavy fire
and than respawned as 2S38 and i killed 3 enemy almost instantly that were caping zone (PUMA, Leopard 2 OTCo and Namer Tsirkon)

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Diesel explodes allright. But then the funnies can happen, when crew keeps burning (because clothes act like a wick for diesel) while the tank doesn’t. But if there are other clothes, tarps, covers whatever inside, then you have a burning tank too.

And then on the other half of the spectrum, you get ultra-survivable MBTs and IFVs:

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They’re a mixed bag.
I wouldn’t say they’re undertiered, but they aren’t OP.

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Don’t you mean over tiered?

Idk, T72B at 10.3 should be a 10.0 tbf.

But yes 90% of my deaths are to fuel explosions in Russian tanks

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Is that another bug or is that common now that someone hit your fuel tank instant death.

its rng BS
internal fuel tank explosions randomly instakill, which is most noticable on russian and french tanks

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It’s been around for years, I can’t see how it’s a bug.

yeah its not a bug, just a very retarded gameplay ““feature””

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So, after the auto loader buff. Russian WR have gone up. While the WR of nations who now need an ACED crew to get similar reloads, on tanks with worse pen have crated. Huh, odd how that happens.

You do not need an ace crew. And you typically have better mobility, turret traverse, reload speed, and gun depression.

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A completely trained crew, with commander buff and max reloader speed plus Expert training puts a Leo 2 of any type at 6.4 seconds. This is slower than quite a few T-Series variants which have a stock 6 Second Reload rate and barely beats the other ones by 0.6 seconds.

Leo 2s had their gun depression absolutely gutted. They can’t really depress over the sites much less the back anymore. Which means unless the enemy is coming at them frontally they literally can’t shoot them.

Quite a few Leo 2s had a turret basket added, which blocks the horizontal drive as a bonus nerf. For really no good reason.

Even the best Leos are using Dm53. Ammunition from the 1990s. Rather than Dm63 or Dm73. As an artificial buff to enemies they’re facing.

Leo 2s DO NOT have a better Turret Traverse than most of the high tier T-Series tank. Almost all of either ones sit at 34s. There is a minor advantage at 10.7. But then again, due to the gun over deck/side depression nerfs you usually have to turn your entire tank. Which you don’t normally have the time to do.

So let’s sum this up. You claim they have better reload speed, they really don’t. And even for the worse T-Series it’s a miniscule difference now and requiring Expert/Commander/Fully Trained. Mobility is a red herring that keeps being thrown out. Turret Traverse is similar or limited due to over the side/back depression nerfs. Gun Depression isn’t really true either and GJN makes flat as all hell maps favouring T-Series tanks anyway.

There’s a reason why top tier Germany has been in absolute free fall in terms of win rates for a long time now. And the constant buffs/new vehicles/magic DIRCM and especially the reload buff for Russia are absolutely a big part of that.

Freefall ?
They’re at 48% pretty consistently.

I’m sure BVM and T-90M getting 0.1s faster reload speed broke the game lmao.

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Cool, but literally everything else is better than the T-series.
Everything.
Mobility, round, crew count, armor, gun handling, etc.
What are you even talking about, bro?

What are you talking about, dude? I’m genuinely at a loss.
What nerf are you even referring to besides the FCS change (which is accurate, by the way)?

Oh, you “only” have the best round in the game.
Do you even hear yourself?

Only the T-80 has genuinely good turret traverse. Everything else is borderline glacial compared to other top-tier vehicles.
And you absolutely should be turning your vehicle together with your turret — that’s how you win snapshots.
???

I beg you to actually play the game.

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According to most WT Heat Maps Germany dropped from 55%~ win rates at higher BRs all the way to 42-40%. Not sure where your stats are coming from.

And don’t pretend it was some “minor” change. Quite a few of them now reload significantly faster. And the 6s Reload is equivalent to AN ACE CREW on a Leo 2.

The Auto Loader buff was just another nail in the coffin that pushed a developing issue even further.

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Mobility, round, crew count, armor, gun handling, etc.

The hell are you talking about. The Leo 2A4 literally gets DM23 only. Meaning it has a significantly WORSE round. Leo 2s in general are capped to DM53. No Dm63 or 73. And no, the armor is most assuredly NOT better.

Also, you yourself are very positive in the Fuji, but have an almost 0.5 K/D in the Leo 2A4.

What nerf are you even referring to besides the FCS change (which is accurate, by the way)?

There is literally videos of them casually depression over the side and gun deck. But yes, “it’s accurate”.

Oh, you “only” have the best round in the game.

“Best round in the game.” With less pen and co. And quite a few don’t even get DM53.

Only the T-80 has genuinely good turret traverse. Everything else is borderline glacial compared to other top-tier vehicles.

The hell are you talking about. The higher Tier T-Series literally all sit at 34 degrees. Same as the Leo 2s.

I beg you to actually play the game.

You have a 43% win rate in the Leo 2A4.

Top tier is sitting at 48% WR in December.

From 12.0 to 12.7 only premium T-80 had a significant reload buff.

Or you just being a drama queen over a 0.1s increase.

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DM23, slung by one of the most versatile platforms in the game.
It’s not even that bad of a round at 10.7 for what you get.
Except for the Type 10s (and that round is SEVERELY nerfed), to my knowledge, no top tier MBT actually shoots their most modern/effective round.
What is that even supposed to prove?
What are you even doing.

I wouldn’t take my stats as any indication for the performances on the Leopard; it was my first top tier MBT, and I was completely braindead.
The Fuji was after I’ve acquired some experience, and decided to get my second tech tree, the Japanese.
It’s a fantastic tank also.

Yes, it quite literally is an accurate mechanism of the FCS/Stab.
What you can do is turning off the stabilization and then depress, but that’s not modeled in.
Go ahead and bug report it.

It’s literally still the best fucking round in the game by FAR, shot by the strongest platform in-game by far
“Less pen” that’s every modern top tier dart. Bohoo.

???
Are you sure you even saw the right stats?
Because the T-90M vs 2A7V is LAUGHABLE.

Because I am not a very good player, and I struggle to make it work as I do with the Japanese MBTs.
Does not make it any less of a competent platform.

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This is the accurate winrate heatmap. Germany is doing alright.

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@Perinvisus can you please play the Leo 2s, and other tanks as well, before you make an opinion on them :)

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After playing the big 3 for quite some time now (Abrams, Leopard and T-series) I can confidently say that T-series tanks are the definitive worst out of the 3. Leopard being by far the most enjoyable to play…T-series tanks are purely annoying and fragile to play. Yeah yeah ERA eats darts bla bla, it happens on all tanks with ERA and its not about RU ERA but about the game itself. The reason your feelings are hurt is because RU is among the top 3 most popular nations thus you see more of them.

If this post makes you cry, good! Its called “a different opinion” and its about time to grow up and deal with it

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