Problem is, if they fix it, usa players will cry more.
Because it’s armor will not be any better
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It’s a well known fact after the extra ammo in the crew compartment is taken out they become far more survivable (not the auto loader ammo)
It would actually. The gunshield is missing 100mm+ of angled armor and the problem with the ricochets are really bad. It would increase the Abrams survivability quite a bit
What bugs are there in the T series that affects game play? A slow reverse speed is how the tank was designed, not a bug.
Given the current state of US player in general. The chance of they not crying about even more stuff is not high , probably as high as the chance of getting 279 or IS-7 from one of those gambling boxes gaijin release every season
I’m speaking only about bugs, not grievances. They cry because playing as US is not entertaining
They just fixed how darts operate so, no. Also spruce for the missing armor? (I’m glad you don’t believe anything other than SepV3 has spall liners)
Shells not explosion after being hit (apply to all tank in the game)
Armor not consistent all across the board (apply to all tank in the game)
Volumetric (apply to all tank in the game)
Fuel tank/track eating shell (apply to all tank in the game)
Ghost shell (apply to all tank in the game)
They don’t and I don’t think anything other than sep v3 and newer has DU in the hull either (that’s why I’ve advocated for NOT having the v3 in game)
Also not to mention the detail model of Auto Loader was a mistake. While it is easier to disable a T series , the chance of those thing eating a whole shell is high. Gotta thank the community for this
I don’t know enough to say you’re not correct but most of those as you said are in relation to all tanks. Is the autoloader a problem even with partial ammo?
Yes , the thing with the ammo not explode after being hit is the most noticeable on T series since you will be hitting their ammo 90% of the time. And they aren’t always kill the tank upon being hit and with Auto loader being modeled even more details now it can stop a shell and eat all the spalls , meaning full rack or not it doesn’t matter since the auto loader essentially kill the shell upon being hit. And the problem of shell not explode after being hit is a tale old as time considering the inconsistency of a lot of thing in the game.
I love a pebble destroying my whole auto loader.
The auto loader should be able to eat a decent bit.
They wont, Usa players are sadly the most vocal and the worst players in the game by far, as a nation with the best top tier by far to the point top tier air is Usa vs Usa and 3rd best top tier tanks, as well as a pretty good spaa and very good helis, they cry the most which is crazy
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If it’s anything like a CNC machine carousel then I can see why it should break very easily. I imagine it is on a bearing with a motor at the center. If something wedges or deforms the metal it would be a problem.
Think of all the components needed to operate that. Hydraulics, computers, motors, sensors, etc. So much to go wrong
Again. Bro. Not once have I even remotely suggested in this thread that 90M / 80BVM don’t have other flaws relative to their peers at top tier.
My whole entire original comment that people keep quoting was focused solely and entirely on the subject of surviveability, I then respond to these, and then other people keep quote those responses with the ‘what about these other weaknesses’ stuff.
I don’t disagree with what you said, I’ve never suggested the opposite of what you said. I’m only in this thread to make the point that the Relikt bois are tough nuts to crack - more so than just about anything other than a 2A7 / 122.
They ruined my Sweden line up by dragging me down
For all i care gaijin should put all the US on the same team all of them so they can lose all they like without dragging other down plus nobody want them as teammate anyways.
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I mean when half of them are playing the Clickbait and thus thinking they are invincible because they have a 80 dollar tank and Usa has the most military budget so its tanks are the best its pretty much over for your team if you have them, unless one of the finds the “spawn f15e” button and enemy doesnt have a pansir, then the game is over for the enemy
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Why is the higher pen dart such a plus?
A 629mm dart can’t pen 720mm KE
But a 580mm dart can pen 370mm KE
The Abrams may have a higher pen than T-80BVM/90M, but it can’t pen either any more than it could with M829. Meanwhile, the Russian tanks slice through the Abrams’ non-existent armor like a hot knife through butter.
Also, why “better gun handling”? It only has better depression- the traverse speeds are superior in the Russian tanks (40°/s horizontal and vertical vs 40/20).
Not better gun handling- worse. Slower horizontal and vertical traverse speeds (40/40 vs 38/15).
People still claim the “gun handling” thing from the T-64 days… now Russian tanks literally have the best gun handling except for the depression.
Many tanks have 30/10, 35/20, 35/30 speeds while Russian tanks are some of the very few with 40/40 speeds, the highest possible among Top Tier MBTs…
Same as with the Abrams; higher pen doesn’t make a difference against tanks with 720mm KE armors and same “gun handling” except for depression. They also got embarrassingly bad thermals because they are modelled as “1st Gen” even though their resolution should be closer to 2nd Gen.
No one expects the turret ring to eat APFSDS shots- we merely expect it not to be a weakspot to 30mm autocanons, and it should also not be a weakspot for shells bouncing off the UFP (which should not even happen on the first place).
Why is it that people ramble about “how badly ‘U.S players cry” on a thread literally called “Russian tanks suffer”…? This obsession over “U.S players” really is sickening. Always making everything about “au.S mains” because we dare point out legitimate concerns. (Also apparently every single person who dares to do so is a “U.S main” even if we play 8 nations).
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