The US has only 2 identical tanks at 12.0 and that’s it.
I see. It really seems like it should sit lower. Is the neck armor in the game under armored? Like should it be more than 50mm or does the thickness vary?
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Oh damn… I’ve been avoiding American grind just for that reason. Didn’t think it was this bad…
Also heard that the hydraulic pump was placed in the wrong place, is it really big of a deal?
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You are gonna have to enlighten me on this but reading the bug report that gets linked a lot
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
It seems the problem is there is an additional 25mm shield that is not modeled correctly behind the 50mm turret ring itself? And that it doesnt have volumetric?
How exactly are these 2 fixes combined stopping 30mm darts with well over 100mm of pen in most cases? Im not really sure what volumetric changes when the rounds are as small as subcalibur 30mm darts.
And looking at real life pictures of the abrams that turret gap is gonna be massive even if it is 1:1 perfectly modeled. Idk why they made it like that other than to be able to depress the gun over the rear.
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Honestly Italian 12.0 is stronger than Russian 12.0.
Cmon Alpharius, you’re better than this. China has 3, albeit the VT4 is sadge. I’d say 12.0 CN and RU MBTs are sidegrades, where you get more in the CN TT they are worse than the BVM.
As for Israel, Merkavas are really strong rn, and having 3 of the Mk.4’s makes for a superior lineup over the Russian 12.0’s.
If you meant Pantsir, thats not a tank. SPAA can be strong but they don’t win games like tanks can.
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New video pretty much what has been said here, Russia basically has 1 tank worthy of 12.0. No one wants to play a shitbox with 4km reverse and horrific gun handling at top tier. If you dont watch the video he explains why he has no interest in playing the t90m since its the same story as the t90a. More armor does not help at all in this meta.
I did say ground vehicles not tanks for a reason
and despite not directly winning games good AA keeps CAS from wiping your team out
and its not like you go through more than 2-3 ground spawns very often anyway
I see, however I still think the likes of Israel are better, with China being tied. Russia is just carried by W-Holding BVM into Su-30/4/Ka-52 then Pantsir.
idk if I agree with Isreal being better, you get one more 12.0 MBT but the merks dont seem to be in the best place combined with very limited fixed wing CAS and no AA, the only place they are good on is heli with the 16 spikes on the black hawk but id honestly prefer an ah64 on a good map for heli just because the spikes arent too reliable
I dont have the merks though so might be wrong about them
You should grind them, Mk.4M is really good.
I might, but rn working on germany and proably japan next
Haha nice joke
I’m not joking, its one of my favorite top tier MBTs. They’re good if played properly.
Not exaclty 12.0 but we could also get the B1 Centuro 120
Russia tested it and a number of others back in 2012.

They are my favorite too but thats doesnt mean they are good
The merks arent good in anything
Not sniping not brawling and not flanking
They are just casual nato mbt but without any big strength
No autoloader no armor mid round and the unique aps is hella nerfed and bugged
Best playstyle is to just outplay ppl with good position and awearnes with sound and such
But in that case just take the type 9 or the leclerc so u have a strength