My dude the first part is just simple math. Even with an Abrams’ reverse speed, how often would the at best 2.1 seconds of time given by the reload allow you to get behind cover enough to not be shot anyways?
As for the second part, how (beyond the one way already pointed out to be a dubious benefit at best) are the 11.3/11.7 better than the T-80BVM or T-90M?
You mean 6.5/7.1 seconds right? The 2.1 seconds is the time you have to fire again without the Russian tank being able to fire back. Not the reload.
I mean if the T-90M is shot by an Ace-crewed Abrams and tries to reverse versus a T-90M is shot by a T-72 of another nation, but yeah that’s why I said it’s the best case scenario for the Abrams.
As in, would any of these outcomes be different in the majority of cases:
I get away with my life quite often because of that faster reload.
Better firepower, allround mobility and gun depression angles are absolutely massive. You just don’t recognize that.
Let’s be honest, you are just another below average player that watched a couple top tier videos, completely misinterpreted half the info given and now you think you know how top tier works.
A perfect example is one of your recent claims in another topic. You likely saw in a video how the TUSK shields on the Abrams are a HE one shot trap. However you somehow interpreted that in such a way that you made the claim that the .50 cal in general of all Abramses is a HE shot trap, which is just straight up false and shows your inexperience.
That’s not what I was saying, but I clarified in the above comment.
Better firepower by 50mm of pen and only somewhat of a faster reload with Expert or Ace? Better mobility than only the T-90M, which is much more armored than any in-game Abrams? Gun depression mattering in increasingly flat maps?
Which topic? I’ve got legitimately no idea what you’re talking about.
“the 0.50 cals are actually worse because they stick out like a sore thumb and are HE magnets.”
Penetration difference doesn’t really matter, but the 1.2 second reload is a big difference. It often bails me out or makes it so that I can quickly put in a shot on a second target when I couldn’t do that in a BVM or let alone a 90M.
I get more than enough hilly maps, but like I said to ARK_BOI maybe I’m just lucky.
overall armor at top tier is only worth something if you can combine it with something else that is strong. The Strv 122s and 2A7s are strong because they combine strong armor with really good survivability, decent mobility and good firepower and gun angles. None of the T-series now have that second factor.
Now my question is, and sorry for being blunt. You barely have enough experience/understanding to do well in your current BR range, so why would we trust what you say about a BR that you haven’t even played.
put him this on my behalf
dont have much to add since this is true
The reload rate is garbage and gets you killed quite often:
I messed up the edit on this second clip, so for context: Leopard 2A6 fired a round, I immediately killed his loader (and driver), yet he still out-reloads me.
Of course, if you actually played any of these vehicles, you’d realize that.
That’s actually impressive and not in a good way
Nvm
The guy I was responding to specifically said the SEPv2’s 0.50 cals were better than the prior versions, I was correct in stating that they are HE magnets.
The how often is the big part, though, as in statistically how often does it matter (I’d argue that it’s not a difference large enough to greatly impact gameplay).
Because a lot of the arguments have very little to do with experience and can just be checked with basic math, observation of maps, or checking a vehicle’s protection analysis (which isn’t perfect, but gives a decently accurate view of what happens to a vehicle).
The first one would’ve needed an Aced Abrams to survive (so not many people have that), the second most likely would take an Experted Abrams (5.73 seconds is the timespan from what I could tell through the nerd stats), and the third would’ve also taken an Experted Abrams.
Actually not really. Not only does barely anyone shoot the crows system with HE, there are only 2 spots on the entire crows that will make HE kill the tank if hit.
The problem that the SEPv2 has, besides the dead weight era, it’s the shields behind the crows. The protection analysis does show a kill shot on the SEP gun mounted M2, but I have never seen an Abrams die that way.
Yet it still leads you to borderline delusional takes. The Abrams is an incredibly capable tank and easily on par with the BVM and better than the 90M. Only the 2A7s and Strv 122 severely outperform it, but these tanks outperform every other MBT in the same way.
Also map observation is pretty laughable, as nobody always gets the same maps. I get plenty of maps where better gun depression comes in handy.
Absolute nonsense, a single pixel was left on the reload cycle, in what reality is that 1.5 seconds remaining?!
Any NATO 11.0-11.7 tank I own would’ve not only survived, but also gotten two kills on both that Leo 2A6 I out-played and the Merkava.
Abrams with Expect crew is 5.3 seconds, there’s no way that sliver of reload time remaining accounts for 1.2 seconds. I’m beginning to question your eyesight.
More nonsense.
Barely a pixel left on the reload cycle, easily woud’ve gotten that had my reload merely been 0.1 - 0.2 seconds faster.
I wouldn’t say modeled right, but I would say modeled to the utmost claims of propaganda.
least delusional westaboo
“Su-27SM”
Those other points are fair but this thing is a giant piece of garbage. Sexy garbage, but still garbage.
Lol skills issue
Hm even westaboo like me still play Russian tanks better and had higher K/D in it than you pure ivanboo shame lol
Yeah but it still competitive.
