Ruhrstahl X-4

[Cpt_Bel_V]

“It is planned to cut off the propulsion after a certain time of flight”

from:
“The development “Dogge” (acoustic) was undertaken for the X-4 missile. It is planned
to cut off the propulsion after a certain time of flight. Dr. Benecke showed a microphone with a
built-in amplifier. For X-4 (a missile with rotation) two such microphones are used which are
installed diametrically opposite each other.”

so it is specifically speaking of “Dogge” requirement to have the rocket engine shut-down.

there is multiple effect than only the sound directly provided by the exhaust flame.
the vibrations coming from potential cavitation issues (yes, cavitation can appear in the air) would be transferred directly to the microphone, tempering it’s ability.

i do see others plausible cause of cutting the propulsion system (Mach1.14 is obtainned in specific conditions, and only at peak moments), the ambiant sound of the 2 Me262 engines can also explain why the range with Me262 is only valued at 350m (far from the 500-1000m range that was hoped)

@Armen_Lozone

I simply wanted a terminal stage aim assist. Because with my skill issue of a laptop and wifi combo, ping 200 and 50fps i kinda rely on presteering.

i understand that, and have no problem with looking for existing/completed systems.

@Armen_Lozone

U can deny such a novel guidance system peaks my d i mean my interest

it’s always interesting to look at innovations, whatever the origins.

i only deny it’s use on-board X-4 production models, as per knowledge that it was not installed.
as your source showed to us, the current Dogge was unfiinished experimental project, with an intended use for a later X-4 model, which would have required a new tip to accomodate both battery and accoustic homing device

the current in-game model being the X-4 at the end of it’s program, which is a produced variant

But you can make a suggestion for an “X-4(v2)” variant, that would include the “Dogge”
as i think we’ve made a work around the capability of such system, and made the link between the “X-4(v1)” in-game and intended use for X-4 program → which would lead to an “X-4(v2)”

@Armen_Lozone

Btw no hard feelings anymore i hope

there was none, i simply wanted you to search for some explicit sources about the “Dogge”, because you were claiming things that looked suspicious based on a simple text that resumed a lot of things.

that’s what you did, and i reckon the time and efforts.

i also hope there is no hard feeling in the other way around, as i may have been a bit harsh before.

[Blocky_229]

about the launch procedure:

1. Pilot sees target and pushes button to fire the missile
2. Electric signal fires a small explosive to spin the gyro and ignites a slow burning fuze. The Compressed Air Bottles are opened by small explosives and the Hypergolic Fuels ignite in the combustion chamber. Pyrotechnic soldering Connects internal Battery to the Internal Circut. flares are ignited aswell
3. Missile is released from the launch rack
4. Missile falls and accelerates into the pilot(wso) field of view
5. the Pilot guides the bright flare over the shilouette of the bomber by means of a wire guiding/radio guiding system (info is carried as Pulsewidth modulated Polarity and Amp changes at 5hz)
6. explosion of the missile by either:
   I impact on the Target
   II triggered by a preset Soundwave frequency in the “Kranich” fuze
   III Pilot orders Explosion by certain signal
   IV Slow burning fuze reaches End and Initiates self destruction

[BabelsApprentice]

Misreading a source and finding sources that contradict it are different matters. I had 2 sources. The first was a direct quote to mention the Dogge.

The second source only mentioned the possibility of a homing system which is why I added that Gaijin wouldn’t implement it as there was far too little information about it at that time. Not necessarily that those two sources were connected.

Also, the image you attached after does mention a Dogge although only briefly.

I have no intention of restarting this discussion as I see that you two have come to a conclusion and I’m terribly late as I only now checked my email.

Sorry for reviving the thread, I felt that I needed to clarify.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

well to specify : the “Dogge” occurence in that sources makes it a proximity fuse, and not a homing device,… but we’ve clearly stated that Dogge would be a homing device, therefore i went over that occurence, as it seems to confuse proximity fuse and homing device ^^"

[BabelsApprentice]

Agreed. It’s hard to search for information when sources disagree with each other.