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I would like to sugges the Raupenschlepper Ost/3 armed with a 2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65.
This would add one of many of the armed versions (2 cm - 15 cm) and be a fun fully tracked mid war
this quite basic vehicle would add a fun array of usabel to derpy and usable guns to the lower Brs.
It would show the need of the German army to specifically develop a vehicle for the eastern Front as well as to arm every and each vehicle possible to get more guns mobile.
History:
The RSO was a specifically designed for the Eastern front, all tracked transport vehicle from December 1942 which was produced 1000 a year and came in 3 basic versions.
The /1 was the first standart vehicle with a fully enclosed cabin and Ottomotor.
The /2 which was the classc Open and often armored variant with a 7,5 cm Pak 40 L/46
and the /3 i am suggesting which was used in trails for a wide array of guns, including this 15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/12, furthermore the /3 as a vehicle itself was equipped with a half open simplefied cabin and a new Dieselmotor which was more powerfull and accessable as well as reliable at the cold temperatures of the eastern front.
The 2 cm Flakvierling 38 was originally a Navy mount, but rather quickly also adapted by the Heer, pulled by light Halftracks/trucks and give higher firepower, than the mono gun.
However it was still quite heavy as such it wasnt the best to go to muddy ground and was often put on vehicles of many kinds, including tank chassis such as Pz IV.
The results of the Trails of a couple of guns are sadly lost to history (or i didnt find them)
But the only 2 versions that went into full production were the 7,5 cm Pak 40 and 2 cm Gebirgsflak 38 armed ones, the /2 and /3.
The Gun:
2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65
Elevation: -10° to +100° and traverse of 360°
Ammo:(Click to show)
AP:
Pzgr. L`Spur. o.Zerl. (Ph.) (ApI-T) 0,148kg 830m/s 40mm/10m
Note: Used against ground targets. Soft and armored. 3g White Phosphor Core.
Were fully replaced by the empty ones and later .Zerl in the Desert and other hot places, as the Phostphor had a nasty tendicy to self ignite in hot weather.
The Ph. marked ones were standart with the filler, however they also existed with an O. which indicated they didnt have a filler and were only 143g (and 835-840m/s).
Pzgr. L'Spur zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,148 kg 830m/s 2,4g Pent 37mm/10m
NOTE: Against ground and air tragets. Soft and armored.
It does NOT have a fuze, the filler is for self destruction, in game it would also explode upon impact when shattering, like the japanese 30mm Aphe.
Pzgr.40 L`Spur. o.Zerl. (HVAP-T) 0,100kg 1050m/s 62g core 12x45mm 50mm/10m
Note: Only used against heavy armored targets, where the standart Ap ammo does not penetrate.
(There were 3-4 generations, with ever increasing length and slightly weight, to improve stability.)
He:
Sprgr. L`Spur. m.Zerl. (Hef-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,2g Pent (10,54g) 5mm/10m
Sprgr. Erd. o.L'Spur. o.Zerl. (Hef) 0,120kg 900m/s 11g Pent (18,7g)
Note: Only against groundtargets. Other name is Spr.Gr.39.
(Couldnt find the correct drawing, the Br.Sprgr. o.L’Spur is basically the same, just different filler with Zink.
Brsprgr. L'Spur m.Zerl. (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,6g H.5 and Aluminium
Brsprgr. vk. L'Spur m.Zerl (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 19g H.5 and Zink
Note: Against Air and Ground targets, reduced tracer length for increased filler. The full feight of the H.5 and Zink mixture is 19g, not the pure He filler.
(first drawing is either a earlier model or a slighly too short drawn capacity.)
(This italian drawing is more representative.)
Brsprgr. o.L'Spur. m.Zerl. (Hef-I Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 20g H.5 and Zink
Note: Against ground and air targets. No tracer at all to have a fully capacity He (H.5) and Incendary (Zink) mix. (Weight calculated by Killakiwi 7g H.5 13g Zink)
Minengeschoss:
M-Gesch. X m.Zerl (He-I (m) Sd.) 0,104kg 950m/s 25g HA 41 (40g)
M-Gesch. X L'Spur m.Zerl (HeI-T (m) Sd.) 0,109kg 950m/s 24g HTA
The Vehicle:
RSO/3
Dimensions: 4,425 m / 1,99 m / 2,53 m
Weight: 3,9 t + 0,86 t (gun)
Engine: 4 Cylinder Deutz-Dieselmotor 70 Ps / 2250 RPM
Speed: 30 km/h
Armor: Gunshield of 8-10mm, Hull 3mm Steel
Source:
RSO Manual
Bundesarchiv
Geschossringbuch II
Munition der 2 cm Flak
Raupenschlepper Ost: Entwicklung und Einsätze Wolfgang Fleischer
Besuch zu den Mauserwerken (after war questioning at the Mauser Factories.)