You have some info about 3 penguin missiles? Cuz on ru forum community manager said, that will be only one penguin.
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What a great vehicle to add to an independent Norwegian tree…
oh… :((
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I have heard about it, i don’t remember at the moment but i am going to look for it :D
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Nah, well, never know the ways of the Snail ;p still hoping for an Norwegian/Danish techtree ;)
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It uses the Bullpup pylon, think the F-5 only carried under the fuselage and not under the wings
What rwr is that (looking at the cockpit picture) looks like it is somewhat modern. And also will it get ballistics computer? The hud looks quite modern.
How is the missile aimed to begin with ? From the picture you posted of the new cockpit the pilot has no MFD in the front to aim the missile . The only possibility i see is the picture being that of a dual seater F-5B so rear nagivator has the required instruments , but in this case it means that the model in game should not be able to fire the missile since its a single seater .
Norwegian passive IR seeker-based short-to-medium range anti-ship guided missile, “fire and forget missile”
I’ll look it up later, don’t have acess to pc at the moment
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I sure hope it could carry more than one Penguin but one would also be fine.
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According to wikipedia, the Penguin missiles use the same rails as the Bullpups. Considering the earliest F-5A gets access to four Bullpups, it would only make sense that the F-5A(G) can carry as many Penguin missiles, especially at rank 7.
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In general, as part of the game it shouldnt have a Penguin, because there is no monitor in the cockpit to display images from the seeker.
The F-104G didn’t have a monitor either, but the Penguin was still tested on it (it was the very first aircraft to fire a Penguin missile from the air). It was only during testing, but if they can fire the Penguins from a damn starfighter, i bet they can easily make it work with the F-5A as well.
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Cuz penguin works smth like: aircraft goes into zone, fire penguin, fly out of zone and penguin search target by himself.
Okay, then what’s your point? Why shouldn’t it have Penguins?
We should not have a seeker camera like now on mavs and other AGMs and also should not be able to lock onto a target on a pylon.
No , it is nowhere mentioned that it offers LOAL ( lock after launch ) . Pretty sure it has to be locked to something to be fired and this is where the issue comes from.
If the seeker is passive IR then there is no need for MFD but the missile is cued with the HUD like a classic FOX-2 , in which case practical range is determined by the visual range of the pilot .
Yeah found this aswell . So it appears that the missile has IN ( inertial navigation ) but it is not true LOAL , it can not be launched at a general direction and be expected to aquire the target by itself like true LOAL. It requires target coordinates before launch. The IN can only be updated with radar tracking which the F-5 can’t perform, so in our case it can only be locked with the HUD like FOX-2 .
WDYM “not true LOAL”? All missiles need target coordinates. We have great example of LOAL missile is AGM-114L. Before launch it every time check possibility of LOBL, and if it cant LOBL missile will launch in LOAL mode.
What i mean is in the seeker is not active during midcourse guidance ( INS ) it only activates at a given proximity from the designated target coodinates which need to be imputed before launch as showcased by the KONGSBERG brochure. You can not launch it at a given direction and expect to find the target by itself , it needs spacial coordinates of the target to be able to know when to activate the seeker . The F-5 has no means to do that so pretty sure the only way to fire it is by locking before launch through the HUD.