RNoAF F-5A(G) Late

RNoAF F-5A(G) Late


TYPE: One-seated fighter-bomber
AMOUNT IN NORWEGIAN SERVICE: 78

ARMAMENT

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Primary armament

  • 2x 20mm M-39 cannons

  • 2x Chaff - pod flare/chaff

Secoundary armament

  • 2x AIM 9L Sidewinder
    -Maximum Overload: 30g
    -Maximum speed: Mach 2.5
    -Aspect: All aspect
    -Weight: 84.46 Kilograms
    -launch range: 18km

  • 2x Aim 9E Sidewinder air to air missile

  • 2x Aim 9N Sidewinder air to air missile

  • Spermal fire bombs uncertain wieght and amount

  • 1x Mk.3 (AGM-119A) Kongsberg Penguin Anti-Ship Missile
    -Weight: 370 Kilograms
    -Lenght: 3.2 Meter
    -Diameter: 28 Centimeter
    -Warhead: 130 Kilograms
    -Propulsion: Conventional gunpowder engine
    -Control system: Heat-seeking
    -Max Speed: Subsonic Missile
    -Type: Fire and forget missile
    -Manufacturer & Developer: Kongsberg Defense Systems
    -Placement 1x middle 1x each wing

  • 2x Samovar pod

7x External stations for Rockets, Bombs and Missiles up to 2000kg load

TECHNICAL DATA
Wingspan: 7.7m
Lenght: 14.4m
Height: 4.67m
Eigne: 2x General Electric J85-GE-13
Max thrust 1850 kg
Wing area: 15.79m²
Empty weight: 3667 kg
Maximum weight: 9333 kg
Max speed at 11,000 m: mach 1.4
Cruising speed at 11,000 m: mach 0.96
Range w/extra tanks: 2250 km

NORWEGIAN MODIFICATIONS
-Increased plate thicknesses in the wings
-De-icing possibilities, heater elements on the front part of the cockpit glass and air-intake
-Drag chute
-QRA (Quick Reaction Alert) This modification is uncertain but i am working on it.
-JATO (Jet Assisted Take-Off)

KEY DIFFERENCE FROM THE EARLY VERISON
-New cockpit
-Aim 9L Sidewinder missiles
-Mk.3 (AGM-119A) Kongsberg Penguin Anti-Ship Missile

THE NEW COCKPIT

HISTORY
The Northrop F-5, or the freedom fighter as it is and was called, was developed by the Northrop group, first at its own expense and risk in the mid-50s, then as a two-seat training aircraft for the USAF and from 1958 as a single-seat fighter with two engines and afterburners. The idea was that the aircraft was to be included as part of the US military aid programme. This one-seater eventually received the designation F-5A. The actual prototype for the F-5A flew for the first time on 31 July 1963. At this time, Norway considered several alternatives (Douglas A-4, Northrop F-5 and Lockheed F104H), where the F-5A was one of three possible. In early 1964, the choice fell on the F-5, subject to certain changes to the aircraft, primarily increased plate thicknesses in the wings and de-icing possibilities on the front part of the cockpit glass

The first 11 aircraft, 9 F-5A and two F.5B two-seater training planes, flew via Greenland and to Sola and landed there on 26 April 1966. These aircraft were to go to 336 squadron on the back, which thus became the first department with F-5 . It was also the last to be set up with this fighter in Norway. In total, the Air Force received 78 F-5A, 14 F-5B and 16rf-5a. The first 62 A and B models were part of the Norwegian Armed Forces, while the rest were bought by the state. The RF-5A was a reconnaissance g photo fighter and replaced older models. at 717 squadron on the back. when deliveries ended in 1970, there were 4 fighter-bomber squadrons set up with F-5s, namely 336 and 332 at Rygge, 334 at Bodø and 338 at Ørland. 718 squadron at Sola conducted operational training and eventually also became a pure operational department, equipped with A and B models until the squadron was closed down in 1983. all airworthy F-5s were eventually gathered in 336 squadron. until 31 June 2000 when the squadron was disbanded

The F-5 flew operationally in Norway from about 1966-2000 and was a popular fighter and fighter-bomber. However, it lacked radar, which was a hereditary problem under Norwegian conditions, and therefore had little power.

According to the plan, the planes were to be phased out as they reached a useful life of 3,000 hours, but it became necessary to extend the service for many years beyond this. Therefore, an extensive upgrade and inspection program was carried out to give an expected lifetime of 6,000 hours. Structural and system technical upgrades were carried out well into the 90s to ease the transition to the F-16. The aircraft that had been delivered as part of the Armed Forces Aid were returned to the USAF via Italy in the 1980s, but most of the Norwegian-financed aircraft remained in this country. However, the last 7 aircraft were in official use until 31 December 2007. They participated in Project “eye of the tiger” under the direction of personnel from former 336 squadron. The project involved testing a new naval target missile, then the planes were stored on backs and attempted to be sold without acceptable buyers being found. in about 2013, the planes were distributed to museums and educational institutions in Norway

Trough the years the Norwegian F-5 was upgraded with a new cockpit and with more and newer armament. among those were the aim 9l sidewinder and the Kongsberg penguin missile, wich was used on this plane.

Eye of the tiger camouflage

SERIAL NUMBERS - times in service and fates

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Here are the F-5 Freedom Fighter flying, i think both models are in the video

From 00:16 you can see the JATO in use

SKINS There are over 11 skins for this plane, here are some of them

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Here they are lkisted with a link to a pictrue, and the serial numbers are written down, so you cand find it tin the list i wrote earlier in the post

  • DP-C 67-14896 (https)
  • 228, 338 66-9228 SQUADRON (https)
  • 208, 66-9208 (https)
  • 563, 65-10563 (https)
  • 336 SQUADRON, 69-7132 (https)
  • 156, 334 SQUADRON, 67-21156 (https)
  • DP-D, 718 SQUADRON, 67-14897 (https)
  • MU-J 338 SQUADRON, 65-10574 (https)
  • 577, 332 SQUADRON 65-10577(https)
  • RI-F, 336 SQUADRON, 66-9218 (https)
  • 134 Tiger, 336 SQUADRON (https) The tiger camouflage were in use while they still was in service!

SOURCES

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http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/Blogvorm/norsk-luftfartsmuseum/
https://www.luftfartsmuseum.no/northrop-f5-a-freedom-fighter
NORTHROP F-5A FREEDOM FIGHTER.
https://www.norli.no/boker/dokumentar-og-fakta/historie-og-dokumentar/krig-og-historie/luftforsvarets-historie-fortalt-gjennom-75-gjenstander?
https://www.adlibris.com/no/bok/norske-militarfly-9788271286873?

POLL

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Til_Dovre_Faller
Warthunder_Norway

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im liking the Norwegian suggestions hope more people vote yes

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Amazing 11.3 dogfighter, if it was a premium I’d definitely buy it over the J35XS

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🙌🙌

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Would proably be somewhere between 10.7-11.3 :) early as premium and late as techtree

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This ?

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Exactly that one haha

You have some info about 3 penguin missiles? Cuz on ru forum community manager said, that will be only one penguin.

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What a great vehicle to add to an independent Norwegian tree…
oh… :((

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I have heard about it, i don’t remember at the moment but i am going to look for it :D

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Nah, well, never know the ways of the Snail ;p still hoping for an Norwegian/Danish techtree ;)

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It uses the Bullpup pylon, think the F-5 only carried under the fuselage and not under the wings

What rwr is that (looking at the cockpit picture) looks like it is somewhat modern. And also will it get ballistics computer? The hud looks quite modern.

How is the missile aimed to begin with ? From the picture you posted of the new cockpit the pilot has no MFD in the front to aim the missile . The only possibility i see is the picture being that of a dual seater F-5B so rear nagivator has the required instruments , but in this case it means that the model in game should not be able to fire the missile since its a single seater .

Norwegian passive IR seeker-based short-to-medium range anti-ship guided missile, “fire and forget missile”

I’ll look it up later, don’t have acess to pc at the moment

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I sure hope it could carry more than one Penguin but one would also be fine.

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According to wikipedia, the Penguin missiles use the same rails as the Bullpups. Considering the earliest F-5A gets access to four Bullpups, it would only make sense that the F-5A(G) can carry as many Penguin missiles, especially at rank 7.

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In general, as part of the game it shouldnt have a Penguin, because there is no monitor in the cockpit to display images from the seeker.

The F-104G didn’t have a monitor either, but the Penguin was still tested on it (it was the very first aircraft to fire a Penguin missile from the air). It was only during testing, but if they can fire the Penguins from a damn starfighter, i bet they can easily make it work with the F-5A as well.
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Cuz penguin works smth like: aircraft goes into zone, fire penguin, fly out of zone and penguin search target by himself.