RIP Mig-23ML. You had a good run while it lasted

lol, when you run on base, you dont need to worry about IRCCM missiles, just radar missiles or you do even that basebombing wrong. You should really start learning to fly instead braindead basebomb in fighter.
Any IRCCM shot on front aspect is rather easy to flare, unless you fly straight in to it, what you most likely do since you use j7D on full bombload… :D

Ik I’m guilty but is directly insulting people really necessary? Tiger usually has horrific takes, but they do know how to play, and are just utilizing a very rewarding system for grinding. I don’t respect using the MiG-23 or J-7 for it, as you sacrifice some missiles, but it’s not any of our jobs to tell someone how they should play the game. Everyone has a different playstyle, just because I occasionally carry outer napalm in my phantoms doesn’t mean i’m immediately a detriment, it’s actually really easy to pick off fighters after hitting the furthest base, just dodging missiles on the way there.

Usually? I’ve seen only horrible takes.
Besides, it’s normal on phantom to run 2 napalms, since you dont actually sacrifice your missiles on that, heck, even basic mig 29 is normal to use 2 napalms, since it’s 12.7 and wasting only 2 r60m’s.
But sweet lord, using 11.7 FIGHTERjet and wasting 4 all aspects on one base is total waste of space on team.

I’m just fine when people use 2 napalms or bombs , long as it actually doesnt hurt what people should do in that jet…

Fair enough. Sorry if it seemed like a callout. You’re right that it pulls off the rail faster (you can run the charts on Statshark) but I just feel like that comes into play way less than the increased range you get with the 9L.

The R-60M suffers more from the environment it is in rather than it being bad in its own right. All IR missiles kind of feel like backup weapons at those BRs, moreso even than guns, which is kinda wild imo.

Yeah, it’s not as cooked as the Su-27, SM, 34, or mig-29smt in sim.

I have a 0% wr in two of those

I’m curious why the Hornet earned the title of monster (although I didn’t understand what kind of hornet was talking, about… prem? XD).

The AIM-7P isn’t fundamentally different from the AIM-7F/M (it’s not something like the R-27ER of the MiG-29, which can fly over 40 km and hit a target), they aim-7 are still easily dodged by flying below 60 meters etc. Moreover, the AIM-7p itself often behaves erratically and is quite slow—in my experience, it rarely accelerates beyond Mach 2.5 in ARB.

In short - typical aim-7…

Additionally, the Hornet while dynamics, is not a particularly fast fighter and you can simply outrun it in terms of speed

I’ve never used a flanker in sim but from when I learned the Su-33 it doesn’t feel good. The MiG-23ML is going to stay one of the top prems for a while, aguably better than things like the F/A-18C and MiG-21Bison

It’s only really important at incredibly close range, I view most short range IR missiles as kind of a “sidearm”, not really what you’re trying to use but lethal nonetheless.

I leave this to you

I’ve been using the F-4S to grind the hornet recently and it’s air to air capabilities feel so much worse compared to last year. Not able to lock targets until you’re half a mile away, MiG-23s being unlockable for some reason, constantly seeing Su-27s, and so on. I mainly bomb in it now because using it actively for direct air to air combat is really worthless, plus the added of less players left and all them are tunneling really helps its lethality

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Funny, I’ve use them the other way around with more success, but the off-bore launches with aim9L don’t seem to work as good like they did a year ago.

At rear aspect and short range I prefer the r-60m since it accelerates faster, when the enemy reacts the missile will be closer than the aim9L in the same situation and is more likely to ignore flares.

From more than 1km the aim9L seems to have a little better flare resistance but still trash and easy to flare off. The jets that have some trouble flaring them like the f-14 or harriers, have the same difficulty dealing with r-60m

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The AIM-7P actually seems to lock better and more consistently. However, I don’t own the Early so I can’t confirm within a real match. Past that it’s just an AIM-7F/M with IOG and Datalink. More comparable to the R-27R in terms of usability, minus some range

AIM-9L is useless since the nerf.

Does the datalink offer the Aim-7P the ability to launch in TWS with the soft lock, or do you still need to hard lock first?

No, I’m pretty sure softlock only applies to ARHs. Either way the 7P needs a hardlock to my knowledge

Thanks, I wasn’t sure on that front.

I test flew the TT F-18A and was surprised to see TWS, but was only able to launch in hard lock so I was curious in regards to the Datalink on the 7P.

You need a hard lock, but you can unlock after launching and only lock again to course correct mid path if needed and then lock in the terminal phase.

Just like the R-27R/ER

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F4S is main axample of jet, what doesnt lose anything against air when equipping napalms.
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But then, there is also people who equip full bombs, and then cry when that F4S cant fight against enemy jets. It’s true that it is in hard place on 12.0 especially when facing 13.0

It’s in a horrible state with its radar. The way it acts now renders it hardly usable.

A good bomber tho

SHAMEEEEE
bombing in a MiG-23 is crazy, it can’t even take a full base without napalm and those gives lower rewards.

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About that, before the F-18 you were less likely to see aim-54s. Now that almost every match you play is a full uptier to 12.7 you will probably be seeing more tomcats

Harder to flare overall. Not strictly related to just base bombing. Although if you do pay attention enough, you can flare them off, usually by pre-flaring.