R-60Ms act about the same as 9Ls, with just less range. They aren’t really all that bad imho.
Also forgive me if I’m wrong, as I haven’t used the plane much lately, but doesn’t MTI activate automatically?
Also massive ACM is a Russian staple
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MTI deactivates automatically too though which is a huge problem
This is an issue with the f-18 being undertiered, not the Mig-23 being bad.
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Maybe you should try any other 11.7 and see if its any better
9Ls actually have some decent flare resistance at like <0.8km. R60Ms will get distracted by another planes flares if in the seeker. MTI only activates when you are looking below the horizon but it is incredibly inconsistent especially if you both are multipathing.
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I agree, but only if you can get your radar on the enemy. Perhaps at the moment your results are so bad because the MIG-23 radar is broken once again. It convulses if you orient it close to the horizon.
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Im gonna be honest, radars have always annoyed me heavily so I just use R-24Ts
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Not really. Maybe if they keep their afterburners on. Cut afterburner and drop a flare- works 99% of the time.
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That is obvious for any missile without IRCCM, 99% of the time you barely need to cut burner. just pop 1 or 2 flares. Been like that for a while.
Actually I prefer facing the F-18s. No phenoix, no IRCCM.
You can play F-104S.ASA and face both 👍
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I’m genuinely convinced Gaijin forgot it existed, hell even I forgot it existed. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one since it was removed from sale
You still don’t remember, you mixed it up with TAF lol
Oh sorry, I see F-104S and my mind goes to the TAF, I don’t think a starfighter should be able to see AMRAAMs either way (the TAF cant but yk), but thank you for correcting me
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It’s been a while since I used them, but when I was playing the F-16AL it’s AIM9-Ls where far more reliable and flare resistant than the R-60Ms on my Mig-29.
R60s will go after a flare 4Kms away over an afterburner 500m away
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Oh yeah. I think that’s the worst 104 variant, considering what they’re used for.
99% of players use the F-104 to base bomb (not counting A and C and J variants).
That thing can face Phenoixes and their variants (the most dangerous enemy for base rushing imo), and does not come with an useful RWR at all.
Idk for me 9Ls feel very similar to R-60Ms, though they definitely have much better resistance. I think part of it is due to the 60M using a much larger seeker radius compared to the 9L. Also do forgive me, as I haven’t sat down and played the flogger in a while and the last time I did I mainly just abused 60Ms in headons
Really just multipathing helps a lot with that, but I know the constraints of that
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99% of players use the F-104 to base bomb
the premium F104S yeah, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen an F104S.ASA, let alone an F104S.ASA bombing bases
Well, it’s certainly less practical than the TAF/TT F-104.
Considering the lack of RWR and Phenoixes.
That’s why no one plays them. Not good for fighting, nor good for bombing.
The few people you see are people who want a challenge.
ironically the lack of RWR is because it actually has an inbuilt ECM jamming pod instead of an RWR