1+ Traktoooor!
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Hehe you mught be onto something.
Although ironically i dont exactly know the date this specific experimental vehicle was made.
Ill rename it a Swiss-German six-shooter lol
Forgot to add Aim 7s so added those nowe ;)
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Heck I want this just for the articulating chassis!
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that overhanging front is enchanting ngl lol
Huge +1, would love to have HFK-KV missiles on this ridiculous tractor
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the HFK also had a few other prototypes that were launch tested, like the HFK-L1 and L2.
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god please let me swat those bastards out of the sky…
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especially with that terminal phase IR seeker lol
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The wide array of customization would make this a really interesting vehicle to play. I would like it especially if the option to swap in a gun would be a researcjable modification. +1
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It should be as we have two pictures showing both loadout options. And seeing as we have the ammo mixes for the Vulcan from the Germans too, we will have both AP and HE for the stored ammo.
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+1, definitely
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Sounds great! Maybe the option to swap missiles too?
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Definitely.
I was considering that since it can carry all these different missiles and even IR guided missiles, it should receive the intended ability to mix and match its payload.
I assume in its spaded state:
Right side: 3 x HFK/KV (OR VT-1 if kv not added)
Left side: 2 x MIM-72 + 1 x Vulcan cannon
Making this a truly potent SPAA
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The ability to have both radar and IR-guided missiles AND a gun would be insane. I hope this comes!
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Wow, I thought that only Sweden ever made armed articulated haulers, glad to be proven wrong! Interesting that an air defence system with a Swedish radar ended up on a Swedish articulated hauler as part of a Swiss(?) project. I have to ask though, to what degree is this project actually German? The way I understand it, Contraves is a subsidiary of Oerlikon and Rheinmetall only purchases Oerlikon-Contraves in 1999, well after the SkyGuard-M was made (it evidently existed in 1973 judging by the Wehrtechnik issue date). How does that make SkyGuard-M German and should it really go to Germany in-game?
Either way, would be great to see in-game alongside other articulated vehicles. But don’t you dare call Volvo haulers ugly again >:(
IIRC the radar system is Swiss too lol.
The Volvo SM 868 is Swedish no doubt, but the reason why it should go to Germany is due to the Roland, Vulcan and the involvement of the German engineers from Contraves and Oerlikon in this project.
(It was designed and made in Germany)
Also as Germany is already the host for Swiss vehicles, this makes sense.
Haha, acknowledged broski, i wont ever again!
Well your suggestion states that the search and tracking radars are made by Ericsson, a Swedish company that’s today part of Saab. What German engineers were part of this project? Contraves and Oerlikon were Swiss companies at this time so they weren’t really German engineers, Rheinmetall seems to have had nothing to do with it. As far as I can tell the only German part is the Roland missile but even that is half French and there are some pretty strong opinions among some that Swiss stuff should go to France. Maybe it would be a good idea to add voting options for Sweden, France, and maybe for an independent Swiss tree or the other nations category so that it can be treated on the same basis as other Swiss vehicles?
Saab bought most of the shares of the Defence sector of Ericsson in 2006, but that’s even later than RM getting Oerlikon.
The German Oerlikon factory was purchased in 1923 and in 1924 it was making AA applications for sale nationally and internationally. As this experimental vehicle was made (or assembled as the Volvo and the Sky guard are independent systems) in Germany.
It employed Germans to work and design such systems along with Swiss designers.
Literally blasphemous but ok.
And to put the cherry on top, as this is a ‘failed’ project that found no customers until RM took hold, it does own Sky guard as well as Sky guard-M because they are items in inventory as well as purchased stock, by right of which, they go to Germany.
As an example, the Kf-41 Lynx in the Hungary subtree right now is placed on the same kind of principle.
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Sorry for not seeing the question lol,
As for the Rolands, they themselves are a good enough option seeing as we got the R1, R2, R3, VT-1 and the HFK-KV.
Although I would rather that it start with the VT-1 as stock and be able to research the HFK-KV later on
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