Rheinmetall 130 mm Demonstrator - Future Tanknology

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@Jadenbetter

Clearly Germany did not have a need or want for this vehicle.

quote me where i said germany wanted or needs this vehicle.

I am only talking about the cannon itself. And the test of it being relvant and being an advertisement for germany as well to prove its capability /possibility

[Jadenbetter]

Right in that paragraph

[x_Shini]

we are talking about the 130mm cannon genius

[Jadenbetter]

And what is the thread for?

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@x_Shini_

not completly right, its a joint venture demonstrating the possibility and useability of the 130mm cannon, this was way before the KF51 as well. And was supposed to show germany just as much of the useability of this project and the cannon.
Rheinmetall just decided to go with the Challenger in this case instead of the standard leopard because they were expanding to the british market and it was the easier option
The end result is it being intended as a demonstrator for both GERMANY and the UK.
You just dont seem to understand this point and seem to only think that its targeted demographic was only the UK, fact is its both germany and uk, even if it is not apparant.

here you go

[Jadenbetter]

You’ve got it!

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yes, i showed that the rheinmetall 130mm can be added just as much to both uk and germany
no where did i say germany wanted the chally itself:
Its purely out of convenience it has been done to a challenger

[FlyingOstridge]

So this suggestion about the Challenger 130 for Germany (for some reason) is now a thread about the 130mm cannon? Yeah that makes sense

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i explained the reasoning behind the existence of the 130mm challenger

@x_Shini_

the KF 51 and the chally 130mm are the exact same situation , both models not in service by any nation.
Even more so for all we know gajin might decide the KF51 to be hungary only since they wanna put a 120mm version into service

The only other real option is the embt 140mm, but that ones wayyyyyy more advanced then any other upscaled gun

So like i have proven the rheinmetal 130mm demonstrator has equal opportunity to be added for germany , none of them were realy prototypes or adopted for germany specialy

Its just a fact that the challenger 130 might only be germanys most reliable option
Because since then italy ordered KF51s as well and gajin might decided to make the kf51 series italy tree exclusive. Because those might come into service while this challenger wont be

[FlyingOstridge]

Leopard 140. Pz.87.

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not german, until proven switzerland is gonna be a german sub tree thats less likely then the challenger 130

[Serkay64]

To be fair, the Pz87 140 is still a Leopard so the chance is still high, even if they dont add a swiss subtree for germany

[x_Shini]

depends who you ask, there is the switzerland should go to france as another sub tree faction or the swiss/alpine standalone tree faction as well.
Even if i highly doubt alpine after the benelux implementation not being stand alone

[RycotSS]

Why are larger calibres even needed? DM73 can still be added if firepower is the problem. Besides, larger calibre guns would just mean everyone would lolpen everyone at any angle at any range except maybe some parts of the turret cheeks, which wouldn’t be fun in the slightest gameplay wise.

[x_Shini]

Object 292, gajin already opened that can of worms and with russia of course as well
That is the reason simple as that

[RycotSS]

And it’s quite mid because of it’s lacking FCS and armour, but if modern tanks get the same firepower then toptier is going to become an even bigger shitfest than it is right now.

[x_Shini]

doesnt matter the doors to hell have been opened

[DevilO6]

I dont understand, people are talking like 292 is the fisrt thing with big caliber APFSDS, and MBT-70 is just sitting there.

[Serkay64]

The difference is that its APFSDS is VERY short

[DevilO6]

Never said it isnt.