Revising the Rate of Fire of the T-64, T-80, Т-72, ZTZ96, ZTZ99 Series and VT4, VT4A1 Tanks

That’s the Archer. Achilles is a Wolverine with a 17pdr.
And actually, the Archer proved fairly handy. It was very, very good at ambushing enemy tanks, since it could reverse into position slowly, and then drive “forwards” away from the ambush, without having to turn the tank. Pretty handy for a quick escape. Nevermind the Achilles which carries a 17pdr, a pretty good gun.

Because that was an accepted design choice. The Matilda and Churchill were down the line of Infantry support tanks, so mobility wasn’t a priority (although Gaijin undercooks it massively regarding the hill climbing performance of the Churchill) - in fact most British tanks were primarily designed around infantry support, with tank killing abilities as a handy secondary role. It was only really about 1942/43 when the first properly heavy tank started rocking around, that we bothered with giving ourselves Tank destroyers or 17pdr fitted tanks - see Achilles, Challenger, Archer, etc.

Again, the tank is perceived as a tool to enable infantry to eliminate enemy forces and capture and hold key positions, not as its own strategic weapon. This constant misalignment of thought processes are what leads everyone to go “hurrr durrr British Tank bad” when actually they were pretty good at their design function (mandatory “standfast Ajax” which does not work) - killing tanks wasn’t the primary purpose of most vehicles (and those that were tasked with this are pretty good at it) until probably the Conqueror (which was specifically designed to destroy heavy tanks, specifically the IS-3), and that is a very niche corner of tank design - I’m not the SME on this (I do more boats) but british doctrine meant that this wasn’t the case.

There were some people who definitely did see the tank as its own entity, not a infantry support tool (Liddell Hart?) but the prevailing take was British Armour should be for infantry support.

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Thanks for the additional info those are probably a better source than what I was using lol

But yeah, their training certainly wasnt 11 weeks as Pigeon claimed, it was extremely brief

I mean even 11 weeks would be extremely brief

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I don’t really know much about that but doesn’t that have something to do with the fact it has the L/55 cannon and not the L/44?

It has nothing to do with that because chamber sized hasn’t been changed on L/55, only the length, pressure and muzzle velocity has been increased so the whole reason why all leopard 2 models still loads the chamber in 6 seconds its because Gaijin wants to.

Back in the day they nerfed the Leopard2A6’s reloading time to almost 8 seconds due to how it was stomping.

Reloading times are just balance decisions.

Which is rarely used these days

True.

Some tanks could benefit it again tho.

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Rooikat 76mm must super OP no way it would take someone that long to load a 76mm sized shell.

Disclaimer: I’m talking about the real life.
‘Techincal’/‘Practical’ RPM consider not only the loading time but also the aim time. The loader coup and lock the gun during the loading, after it released, gunner must adjust his aim. (This specifically affects T-72A/B series, because of TPD-K1 aiming line is fixed to gun line, if my memory was right.)

Bro it takes 5.0 secs to load a 60mm in an Aubl. It’s like a 12 pound round if I recall, if not lighter. It’s tiny.

M300 should load wayyy quicker.

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So, why isn’t the M1128 Stryker’s reload rate revised if, all of a sudden, realism matters?
It should be 6 seconds, as it was reported @Smin1080p_WT
M1128 Stryker MGS Reload Rate

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lame

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Balancing factors…Because Russian tanks just suffer so much.

Can CR2 get it’s ready rack buffed from 4 for “balance”

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I would rather have CR2’s first-order rack size and replenishment speed fixed instead, so it actually has the 5 second reload beyond just 4 shots…

And the damn missing spall liners which were reported with literal photographic evidence too, while we are at it.

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And elevation speed.

Somehow Challenger 1 has better elevation speed despite using older FCS, like wth Gaijin?

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Alright,Thx

Nope, it’s vertical stabilisation is independent from that.
Even when loading angles got introduced to T-55/62’s in 1970 their sights were modernised to include independent vertical stabilisation together with their stabilisers so gunner’s point of aim was not taken off the target. Before that it was mechanically tied to the gun to achieve it’s stabilisation.

The reload is not affected by barrel length.