More like 6 second reload, a buff is a buff
BVM is at 6.4s and T-80U can now finally compete with M1A1.
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T-80U has better armour, better thermals yes worse mobility and a slowe rate of fire.
But the T-80U beats the M1 because the turret ring weakness and the turret basket.
T-80U doesn’t have better thermals.
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The T80U does not beat the M1A1 in any realm at all, the M1A1 is substantially better all round compared to the T80, it also still reloads a near full second faster
Dunno why folks say that constantly with T80U.
The T72B3 does but it’s dogwater to use.
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T-80UE has good thermals and the M1 is hilariously easy to kill.
The T80U which you stated, has gen 1 thermals, the TT T80.
The T80UE has gen two but has 4 degree elevation speeds
Also you never stated T80U E 1 u stated 80U
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Are they not the same excluding thermals, armour is the same, mobility is the same 0.3 br difference.
Like the CR1 and CR1 Mk3 same tank
what are you on about?
You stated and I quote
“T-80U has better armour, better thermals yes worse mobility and a slowe rate of fire.”
The T-80U does not have better thermals than the damn M1A1 abrams, they are both the same gen one thermals.
You then changed what you said to the T80 U - E1 which is irrelevant as it’s stll got a worse round, reload, gun elevation speeds and over all survivability as it has 3 crew and not 4 and is more compact.
No the T80 U E 1 has better turret traverses.
gen 2 thermals.
Honestly I just don’t care, ok so better thermals and slightly faster turret traverse completely different tank.
yes M1 are so easy to kill in everything you can pull up protection analysis and show me. The T-80UE is harder to kill than the M1
The T80 U is easier to kill than an M1A1 yes? purely due to the fact the M1A1 has more advantages overall than the T80 U.
The T80 U has better armour yes, however the survivability is miles worse, you pen it, which you will with a 600 pen round, then it dies instantly.
As are T80s?
You’ve used neither vehicle so
M1s hull is weak the turret ring is weak even the front plat at the right angle will kill it or take out the basket and it is dead in the water.
T-80U and the UE has ERA a stronger breach you need to aim carefully if you do pen sometimes it does not disable the tank. How often have you seen “Driver” “Engine” when shooting a T-series tank in the lower plate. yes the Dart miraculously missed the ammo. M1 is a better tank but not on these small knife fight maps we have now.
The T80U with 3BM46 cannot pen the UFP of the M1A1 you realise that?
I’ve over 1000 games between my abrams and I can tell you that they are not as fragile as you make out at all.
You can literally shoot almost anywhere on the roof of the tank and destroy its autoloader ?
Rarely mate, I tend to nuke the tank, or shoot its turret ring, breach, barrel etc I don’t struggle with T80s at all, they all have identical weak points from 9.3 up to 12.7 there is no change in where you should be aiming.
How is it not? the T80s are better at longer ranges as their armour is actually useful.
abrams has substantially more penetration as well as reload, so it’s actually better in close quarters maps.
Again I use both quite a lot.
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Just had a teenie peak at the M1 AIM and M1 Click bait the same BR as the T-80UE and 3bm46 will go through the hull, lower plate basically the only armoured part are the two turret cheeks.
Compare what M829A2 can go through on the T-80UE and it is the lower front plate the driver hatch and the breach the complete front plate is immune as is the turret.
So I struggle to understand which one is more armoured?
As for reload rate sure if the T-80 messes up it’s shot which it really shouldn’t when it holds all the advantages.
It is exactly the same when compared with the 2A4M 3bm46 defeats all of their armour, excluding the turret cheeks.
No they aren’t.
T-80U actually needed some help to match M1A1.
If shooting at LFP there’s a big chance of fuel tanks eating your round completely.
UFP is ricochet-city and area around turret ring is the only consistent aiming spot.
Turret cheeks are also out of the question.
M829A2 can go through K5 at certain distances and angles as well.
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At no point have I stated the M1A1 is more armoured than the T80, I stated that it’s more survivable which means when a round penetrates the chances of surviving are lower on the T80.
The M1A1 Click bait has better armour than the M1A1 , we are talking about the M1A1 and the T80U.
Not the M1A1 AIM, not the M1A2 , not the M1A1 Click bait etc.
The M1A1 has worse turret armour than the click bait.
So as it sits RN you’re obsessed with armour, yes the T80 is more armoured than the M1A1, that is literally it’s only advantage bar I think optical magnifications.
AS we can see here the M1A1 HC armour is actually pretty good against the 3BM46 fired by the T80
its entire UFP as well as basically whole turret face are resistant to it.
the T80U on the other hand.
The M1A1 though has a weak point on its turret face on the right hand side which last I checked 3BM46 can pen.
Actually isn’t much better at all, it has a whole weak point along the UFP at the top where there is no ERA, it has the LFP, it has effectively most the turret as well bar the sections with ERA.
Then a penetration on the T80U will almost always kill it, if not completely disable it.
Yeah but we were talking about the M1A1 no? as it’s the same BR as the T80U.
The M829A1 is still absolutely great for the BR and better than quite a few nations including russias top tier round.
A full BR below it.
I always said the same… the game is russian, thats all
Ah yes, while almost every top tier nato MBT bar the Leopards has a reload nearly 2 seconds faster than russian mBTs?
Up unil recently US cas completely dominated.
Naval was largely dominated by other nations, which now granted has the new russian ship rofl stomping.
The company aren’t even in russia anymore xD
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Yeah, just telling him something he might not know.
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