Revising the Rate of Fire of the T-64, T-80, Т-72, ZTZ96, ZTZ99 Series and VT4, VT4A1 Tanks

it really should, my points still stand

it outreloads everything
it tanks every round at its br (and even higher!)

its 10.3 only because its a popular premium

It is a good performer at it’s BR so I wouldn’t be surprised if it moved up to 10.7 in the next BR adjustment.
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reload rates are for balancing. even for autoloaders. gaijin does make the reload rates sorta close to the irl reloads but that wont always be true.

I wonder why would 11.7 armor scheme at 10.3 go up a little after getting a 6 sec reload buff lmao

Smin disagrees

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11.7 armor ? Not so sure

Still waiting on my chieftain fire rate increase, and the challenger ready rack fixes.

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Doesnt this also mean that T-80BVM shouldnt be able to carry more than 14 rounds of 3BM60, given that it cannot fit them in all 28 slots of the autoloader?

Idk if the hull-storage is large enough to store additional 3BM60 rounds, but if so, then i guess an additional 10 rounds of it could be stored if the taken amount of ammunition exceeds 28 rounds.

Made a bug-report for it, so ig let’s see how that goes;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/20nRjk9QmG7V

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Correct implementation for 3bm60 reload would oddly enough be 7 seconds for sustained fire
6 seconds + 0.5 for recoil of gun and ejection of casing + 0.5 for 3bm60 specific reload

The first 0.5 seconds is required as implementation into the game means to reload a round you need to first fire what is in the breach

Why am I not surprised


Ofc cherrypicking examples…

But I can do that too;
Gepard, OTOMATIC, BMP/BMD (cant use the same ammo-type for both belts, like Bradley etc. can)

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I did the same issue earlier than you and we just got the same answers from the silly Bug Reporting Manager lmao They just dont care you asking whatever on the two websites Telling you to come there reporting but just dont answer like many another issues Wasting too much time

its T-80U armor scheme, which is found at 11.7, at 10.3, with only difference being engine, transmission and shell as far as i know.

So yes, its 11.7 armor scheme at 10.3.

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Well i might check that when i am at home

its not actually
its missing 15 mm of HHRA compared to the 80U
does make a difference, stops things like sabra from lolpenning

I dont play leos

TIL

Still, compared to its peers, the armor cant be overlooked

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So on a t80 u have a 6s reload and u need to have the crew on expert on leo 2 to have a reload rate equal of that and u think/feel that is fair??

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I am sorry but if you grinded the whole tech tree and dont have a full reload speed crew the whole time.

That seems to be your problem

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Sad 21 Shell user noises…

Besides jokes 16 round is not enough sometimes so I usually take 21 and fill the bottom of hull rack but I usually use those rounds in hulldown position first before getting into CQC.

If Gaijin added DM63 it will solve that issue as well.

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You need an ace crew with maximum leadership and reloading-skills for the crew.
Expert-crews (with the afforementioned skills maxed) only give you 6.4s reload on Leopard 2’s.

Ace crews are ±1.1mil exp after purchasing expert crews (or 2.1k GE)