Even if so.
One side gets the idealized value, absolutely not practically sustainable.
The other side gets fantasy assumptions based on balance (which is double the rl standard for a skilled tank loader).
Lately its just a bit too much candy for rus. I just hope community can reverse this bs.
And German main, i might not play a lot germany but i know the play style. Simple facts, even dev confirmed about the 4 sec reload leo2.
But sure show the source where the loader can achieve 4 sec reload with closing and opening the blow out panel.
I would love to see the video.
Talking about reloading times, why do some ships have theoretical RoF, but other practical? Will naval part of the game get some rebalance?
Currently it’s just an absolute mess, where identical cannons/turrets can have different RoF depending on the nation, because each nation paper sources have different values (e.g. 100/47 Minisini) or just nonsense with Sovetsky Soyuz having best theoretical value of 28 s, while Roma and Italia get stuck with the worst possible published practical value of 45 s. And the same thing is with accuracy, not hard to guess ships which have the worst in the game.
Dev? Who? Ralin? Lmao. The same dev(s) who claimed it’s impossible for Leo 2s to have armor as good as shown in the Swedish Trials cus an UVGZ employee said their tanks can’t do that? Lmao
But sure show the source where the loader can achieve 4 sec reload with closing and opening the blow out panel.
Can you read, or is it too much for you?
It’s almost like it will tske a repeat of a major protest by the player base to get gaijin to listen.
A big company will keep doing whatever it wants until its baseline is at risk - especially one that is very likely in receiving government stipends to… emotionally frustrate weaker willed men in the west to share… information. While publicly maintaining the posture that they don’t want that.
Intelligence and psyop warefare is a very intriguing subject for anyone who wants to study it. Corporations in the private sector, especially in the west, are heavily leveraged. I can only assume it is similar in Russia.
Stop mixing thing up, this is about the reload speed not armor. Plus i never said dev name yet here you are.
You can’t achieve 4 sec reload with the panel closed and opened. That simple. Think otherwise? Prove it.
More simple than that cant be done.
Uh yeah, the og video of what’s been posted in this thread lol.
You seem to believe it’s “impossible” when both German and US manuals state a loader has to be capable of performing a “combat reload” which includes opening and closing the blast doors in 5 to 6 seconds, lol. We currently have the “lower end” for Leopard 2s, and “higher end” for M1s, and Gaijin gave the M1 its 5s reload based on that, so do explain why would it be “”“impossible”“” for a Leopard 2? Aside from “but muh not possible cuz dev said so”. What’s funnier is that, Leopard 2 automatically raises the cannon to help the loader, meaning it’s done to shorten the load time, the M1 doesn’t have that feature, so if the M1 can do 5s (and according to Chieftain, an ex-M1A1 tank commander, experienced loaders can do 4s too), why should a tank with an “aid system” be incapable when we have footage of it doing so in 4s (ignoring the second it took for the gunner to actually fire?), lmao.
Stop mixing thing up, this is about the reload speed not armor.
It’s almost as if I’m telling you the words of devs doesn’t mean anything.
My goodness, almost 900 responses in 2 days, the whining is in full swing
good show me or give me the link to the footage, all that talk was useless when i was just asking for a video.
Except this clip is fake lol.
Qual for an abrams is 7 secs.
Also, depending on which branch that 7 secs could be a USMC 7 secs or in the army it’s more like a 9 sec
Qualification to become a loader, but not actually finishing training, they’re different.
Except this clip is fake lol.
According to?
good show me or give me the link to the footage
Yeah okay bro can’t read. Feel free to look it up, and if you manage, to find it (the og thread is gone), good on you lol, but I managed to find a comment from said loader that I had saved before lol @racimazzedine ;)
From memory, he also mentioned that a “normal reload” takes between 6 to 7 seconds, so the current WT load rates, what we saw in the vid is therefore very much possible ;P
But also:
Reload performed in 3 seconds with OPEN doors, opening the doors takes 1 second, another second to close them, so 5 seconds is more than possible lol
good, you still miss the whole point. blow out panel. but still at least you did some effort instead of saying BAIS !!!.
my whole point is if you want 4 sec reload, you lose the blow out panel. i never said the reload is impossible. yet here you are.
also if you think a text like this will convince player or mod to change the game reload, that wont happend .
According to? Genuinely what is your logic here, because WT ALREADY simulates the opening AND closing of blast doors during load times for both Leopard 2 and M1, the game has been doing that for the past 2 years, give or take a few months (you can go and test that if you don’t believe me, have someone take a Leo 2, get them to fire, then shoot them into the turret stowage and watch them explode because the doors are opened to load the round), the only difference is that Leopard 2s don’t get their fastest loading times like the M1.
you still miss the whole point
There is no point to miss or even address lad.
also if you think a text like this will convince player or mod to change the game reload, that wont happend .
Where did I say that’s my goal lol?
the video dont show the panel. i dont know where you get that info.
From videos that show it? It’s genuinely not hard to time, it in fact takes 0.75s for the doors to open and close (total combined time of 1.5 then), so if we wanna be pedantic, we could get load times down to 4.5s based on the BW video :P
video clrealy dont the show the panel, unless you find a other video showing the full 3-4 sec reload.
that said smin said that leo2 will not get a reload buff, he even said that video cant be used as primary source. so at the end, only docs will matter.
… dude do you actually don’t know how to read?
which tank is that?
Yea, and the chance of a tank without thermals, with 300hp missing from faulty powerplant, without LRF, with faulty aiming system, gun and turret drives, broken brakes and no service shells is also ZERO.
Almost like it’s a game with progression and not real life or something.