Last time I checked, you don’t need Expert or Ace to reload faster than 6s on an Abrams.
Doing Expert/Ace crews should be done on your favorite tanks regardless, as it boosts other important metrics such as gun handling, reload speed, etc.
3BM60 is a below average round.
Ooooh, I see. Thank you for the clarification!
So… ultimately;
T-80BVM: 6.5 → 6.4 seconds
T-90M, T-62B3s: 7.1 → 7.0 seconds
So a 0.1 second reduction for these. And people still cry and whine about this being “a super-bias OP buff”…
I am sorry, but suggesting that “Leopard 2A7V is not so good” because German mains SOMEHOW manage to have bad stats even on a tank that practically plays itself is… really something.
the average player is well below 1kd a 1.3 kd on a tank is disgustingly hig
Gaijin decided it would be a good idea to make the “Challenger 3TD” worse than the Challenger 2 series of tanks for some reason.
Instead of just giving it a 5 second reload, giving some logical progression from Challenger 2 to the “Challenger 3”, they’ve given it arguably worse firepower ingame despite the main upgrade IRL being to its firepower.
It feels a bit tone deaf by gaijin to buff all of these Russian tanks, which generally perform fine, while completely ignoring reports about minor nation tanks that people have been asking for historical buffs for, for years.
The Challenger 1 ready rack report, based off primary documents, has been left to rot for 2 years:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m22cZZxaNPXJ
Same with the Challenger 2 ready rack report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nzUoCC2yxJx5
The Challenger 2 spall liner reports for the LFP and side have been ignored for months if not years too.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/y65891XieBAA
The Challenger 3TD has had a completely incorrect model for around 2 years now I believe, the damage model is comically bad. It has been reported, gaijin dosen’t seem to care.
The first tank in War Thunder made of aerogel.
I could go on about the Merkava and other minor nation tanks as well, but I think the Challenger is the best example. I appreciate gaijin buffing the Challengers horsepower, but it dosen’t change the fact the tank has an unbelievable amount of outstanding reports that just get neglected.
I’m curious why this gets “historical speed” just because it’s mechanical system while recorded reload speeds of guns are led to just be whatever gaijin thinks is ok for balance reason?
You go on statshark and look at playerstats in 12.7 tanks for November 2025.
Now don’t forget to repeat after me, “Russian Bias”
The more you say it, the more true it is, facts be damned.
Wow … War Thunder is going down more and more.
6 sec. ??
Why do not call it RUS_Thunder ?=!
I totally agree with you. And why self, I owed USSR where possible … skills beats algo.
But also the through is that there are still bugs and issue pro USSR which are open for months and they are not and they will be not fixed.
After 2 attempts it seems gaijin have gone back on any and all rules for autoloaders
for example the T64A has now a 6 second reload
This is assuming the breach is empty when beginning the reload
and assuming the carousel turns once (the minimum it can turn unless its the very first shell of them all)
this is completely unsustainable but its how autoloaders work now
So it seems new rules have been implemented yet again for the benefit of the Soviet/Russian tanks
(the type 10 was denied its faster reload bc its isnt sustainable)
This would take 5.8 seconds.
no
As you can see it takes exactly 6 seconds from an empty breach as per the second image
First image gives you the information on the shell being ejected
3 steps rotation, and 0.5 sec for “choosing projectile type” (HUMAN choosing before press button).
Subtract 1.5 seconds
Yes and that is still without having to eject a shell from the breach
Both of these include time for the gunner to literally press the button instructing the mechanism to commence loading, so these aren’t taking into account the serial mode where the autoloader automatically begins loading the next shot of the same type.
First diagram is taking 7 seconds to load the shell, including said button pressing time (500ms) and traversing 3 carousel slots. 6.5 seconds or so in this worst-case scenario.
Second diagram is also including 200ms for pressing a button, leading to a 6 second flat reload including returning the gun to firing angle.
Projectile ejection takes ~0.3 seconds (this is the actual time, not the one shown in the first cycle diagram, which is riddled with errors and discrepancies with the technical description).
“Waiting for a shot” - what is this?
Chambering takes longer than the repair manual allows (1 second instead of 0.58-0.75).
The first cycle diagram is generally not very accurate compared to what the manual states.
We should nerf all manual loaders by including the time it takes for the commander to verbally instruct the loader on the ammunition type, say 1 second.
The cycle diagram from the manual still includes ~0.25 seconds for “pressing the button”, which is not actually part of the cycle
this was discontinued quite early on
and also when you swap shell?
This is a primary source though taken directly from moscow archives
shooting the gun itself hence why it is after realigning with the gun itself
Your source?
