Revising the Rate of Fire of the T-64, T-80, Т-72, ZTZ96, ZTZ99 Series and VT4, VT4A1 Tanks

Your first response to me was this

Followed by self-proclaming how objective you are.

If you later rectified that, good for you.

Never claimed its clear, but you obviously have some sort of bias against Leos or Germany since you seem to ignore actuall issues of Leopard 2s and continuing to claim that “they are teh best” with the new autoloader changes

they added a line for the 3BM60 that gave it specifically 6.4s

Lololol…. @Stona_WT can we get a fix for that or something? Like im pretty sure they are supposed to be 6.0s

I have demanded for add-on armor module fixes for Leopard 2A7s.

I have demanded for acceleration fixes for Leopard 2A7s.

I have demanded DM53 for Leopard 2PL until it got it.

I have demanded for slpprj m/95 for the Strv 122s until they got it.

I have asked to revise the thermal quality/resolution of the Leopard 2s.

I argued to reduce the damage model hitbox of the Leopard 2s turret basket modules until they did it.

I have repeatedly demanded and attempted to fix/improve the armor of the gun mantlets and trunnions of the Leopard tanks.

WHAT are you on about?

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Whole lotta nothing

That is key still.

Many of the eastern autoloaders shouldn’t get its fastest reload time though, as the game convention implies they are capable of switching rounds like a human loader would, when in reality, if you want to switch rounds with a carrousel autoloader, there’s a chance of cycling near the entire mechanism depending on how the tank was loaded prior to battle.

As the game hands players the chance of freely cycling their rounds without the extra reload time of cycling the entire carrousel, it is only fair to add extra reload time as a base convention in exchange to have a standard reload time to fire all types of rounds.

You tell me.

this is plain wrong


that m1a2 was carrying a full apfsds load btw

No, YOU tell me.

Does all of this come off as “anti-Leopard bias” to you? Enough of this nonsense.

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And yet here you are, dismissing my concern that Leo2s might fall behind while procilaming they are the best (kinda contradicting yourself) on grounds that your take is just more objective than take of me, an average peasant.

Because they won’t fall behind.

As an all-nation player, you know what my interest is? For every nation to be balanced, fun and enjoyable equally.

THAT is my only and true bias: for full balance across the board for true enjoyment no matter what you are playing.

What I do not want is for the Leopards to stomp and be above everyone else because then there’s no point in playing anything that isn’t a Leopard.

But same goes for EVERY tank. What do you think I was doing when T-80BVM was the OP and broken tank? Yes, askingfor realistic nerfs and the addition of counterparts for other nations. And you know what people called me? “anti-Russia hater”. Just like now some of you suggest I have a bias towards Russia for supporting these changes.

As an all-nation player, I want to have fun with EVERY nation without having to default back to Leopards because these just happen to be the very best.

So: as I said, I have no biases towards nor against any nation. I do not wish for any nation to be above nor beneath any other. My only bias is towards full-fledged balance.

The T80BVM will always be the chariot of the window lickers at top tier, its easy to play but not the best top tier tank

If you are somewhat good at the game, you will do better in an Abrams or Leopard

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Bet people will still buy turms t instead of ud even after those changes

Turms may be slower on nearly every category, but it has thermals, I can’t blame them.

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Yes and a sustained rate of fire should incur longer reloads but that would quickly become a non issue if you aren’t firing 10 rounds lol and give some time between shots

But are those thermals worth being worse than ud in every aspect? Plus majority of maps are cqc counter strike where thermals wouldnt help you much. Unlike 6s reload and t80u chassis

You straight up sound like Alvis.

By what metric they stomp? What exact model of Leopard 2 stomps, since there are lot of them spread over 2 full BRs?

General stat dont show Leopard 2s overperfoming maybe with exception of 2A7V, my personal stats show Leopard 2A4 performing worse than both UD and M1 Abrams.

So by what metric they stomp?

Sure. Everything is nice and dandy.

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Dude… the only Top Tier tanks you have played are Leopards.

Germany. That’s all you have at Top Tier.

How can you pretend that your take on Top Tier tanks can be possibly more educated and objective than the take of someone who actively plays every single tank in Top Tier? Now, seriously.

And for the record, I would not even be bringing this up if I weren’t growing tired of your constant attacks and disrespect.

I’d say no, but its not like having 2nd gen thermals at 10.3 is negligible either. For instance on forest maps, that leap in image quality is all the difference you need to do quite good games even with mediocre vehicles.

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And I have played both russian 10.3 and US 10.7, having more success in both than that of Leopard 2s.

Your point being?

Do you need to eat feces to know its a bad idea?

t72 change is fine, t80 t64 change is nonsense. that cyclogram is virtually the only source that ever states such low times, and isnt really congruent with reality.

chinese autoloaders have been needing fixed for a long time.